So why Tesla didn't pick Poland for their European factory?

Apparently not everyone seems to have a rodent problem with their BMW.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/264342/global-sales-volume-of-automobiles-of-bmw-group/

Some more anecdotal car shit FWIW. I've had my share of German cars. The best car in virtually every respect was a 1995 BMW 325. I now own, among my four present vehicles, a Porsche. But I doubt I will ever buy another German car unless it predates they date they started using soy based wire insulation. German engineers have know for years now that the soy based wiring harness insulation they use is a rodent magnet which has caused millions in damage, ask any insurance company. Yet they've steadfastly done nothing to remedy the problem. The don't deserve to sell another car until they remedy this very obvious problem with a very obvious solution.

Incidentally, the most fun to drive by far is my 1981 FIAT Spider 2000, and also in my eyes among the most beautiful body styles ever produced. It also keeps my mechanic busy. But he tells me its his favorite car to work on, and to drive. When he tests drives it, he doesn't come back for a long time!
 
So, the 4runners driven in Europe are all after market imports? Well, perhaps anecdotal evidence on Youtube is all we have to get an impression. I don't know what BMW model years you refer to but I don't think newer model years suffer from serious engine problems. Re electronics I don't think comparing a 7 series with a base Hyundai with a body, 4 wheels and an engine is a fair comparison. Which Hyundai models have level 5 parking modes and all the other features a 7 series has? Per your own link the less features the more reliable holds generally true. The less breaking parts the less chance things break. :D Hyundai usually plays it very safe with basic car concepts. They don't have any serious offroader nor luxury car in their segment outside of Korea. And in their standard segment I don't see how they run leaps around other comparable Toyota models, for example. They seem to try to fish for customers with their generous warranty and low pricing, some of which borders price dumping to gain market share.

Here is a gold example of the naive approach most ranking websites take:

https://repairpal.com/reliability/hyundai
https://repairpal.com/bmw

They state Hyundai on average has an annual repair and maintenance cost of close to 500 dollars while BMW amounts to almost 1000. That caused the website to place Hyundai on slot 4 among all manufacturers while BMW ended up on place 32.lol.of course they conveniently omit that BMW on average costs significantly more than a Hyundai and sports significantly more features and technology. If you compare an equally priced and equipped BMW with Hyundai I don't think the maintenance costs will be too different.

You can't compare a modern mansion with high tech heating and air conditioning systems with a rancher style home with baseboard heaters.

In engineering , as in every other endeavor, it's good to know when enough is enough. Failure to recognize this in high tech engineering can quickly result in not only diminishing, but also negative returns.
 
What's your definition of "enough" here? In what context?

In engineering , as in every other endeavor, it's good to know when enough is enough. Failure to recognize this in high tech engineering can quickly result in not only diminishing, but also negative returns.
 
I don't know anyone who drives through or lives in rodent prone areas. What rodents?

I do acknowledge that engineering quality and standards most likely dropped over the past decades. Same as with most every other product. Pick your poison for the right occasion. BMW and MB were never designed to be driven around swampy areas in Florida or on desert environments (exception Gseries)

Of course that's true, but you would think millions of dollars in insurance claims every year would get some attention. And it has! The reputation of German engineering is being harmed, because word has got around. Ask any of your friends who drive recent model German cars in rodent prone areas.
 
What's your definition of "enough" here? In what context?
When reliability begins to suffer, as it has unfortunately in the case of German engineered cars. Check any of the recent reliability ratings and compare them to those for Japanese engineered cars, for example. And the other thing that suffers is repair cost. The more complex and unique, in general, the higher the repair cost.
 
Of course, can't compare a corolla with a BMW 7 series. Or a mechanical watch with a high tech GPS Garmin watch. Different applications, and the more features the more breaking points. We need to look at things relatively. Basic Audi and BMW and MB break equally infrequently than a basic toyota or Honda or Nissan. If we want to talk about a crash in reliability we should probably first take a look at Ford and GM. Or to be fair not really a crash but their reliability ratings were always in the basement.

When reliability begins to suffer, as it has unfortunately in the case of German engineered cars. Check any of the recent reliability ratings and compare them to those for Japanese engineered cars, for example. And the other thing that suffers is repair cost. The more complex and unique, in general, the higher the repair cost.
 
Basic Audi and BMW and MB break equally infrequently than a basic toyota or Honda or Nissan.
That's good to know, but I'll not buy another German car until they fix their rodent problem. I would have thought German engineers were bright enough to have figured out how to do that. They've had quite a few years to do it, and they haven't yet! And then there is Volkswagen cheating on emission standards. (Not certain, but I think VW may have been the first to adopt soy.)

To be fair, and we do want to be fair. Nowadays , many manufacturers have this same problem, because they have adopted the same wiring insulation used by the German manufacturers since very early 2000s.

Let's put credit where credit is due however. Although it's very difficult to track down the originator of soy-based wire insulation --- who wants to take credit for creating a problem amounting to million of dollars in law suits? --- the data strongly suggests it was the Germans who were the first to adopt. That great German engineering has bitten us all in the ass! Now their environmentally and rodent friendly "innovation" has spread to practically all manufacturers. Until the manufacturers have the pants sued off of them they'll just pass the problem on to owners and their insurance companies.

https://globalnews.ca/news/1106736/german-cars-serve-as-smorgasbord-for-rodents/

German cars serve as smorgasbord for rodents
b
y Paula Baker Global News
Posted January 24, 2014 11:58 pm
Updated January 25, 2014 12:07 am
A lot of cars are showing up at the mechanic with chewed wires, thanks to rodents, who are finding their way into the engines and doing some very expensive damage.

According to mechanics, the rodents appear to be turning to German brands of cars in order to satiate their palates.

Global News spoke to one mechanic who showed a BMW X-5 with $6,000 worth of damage, most likely by rats, done to the vehicle’s wiring and upholstery.

“It seems to be getting worse,” said John Siamoutas, a Burnaby Firestone mechanic. “I’m starting to see almost 30 per cent of the cars, I see not chewed wires all the time but evidence that they’re there. There are droppings on the engine.”

The BMW is considered “a bad case” but is one of many that have been brought to the Burnaby auto shop.

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“The population is definitely up,” said Jason Page, Solutions Pest Control Ltd.

Page attributes the increase in rodents this winter due to mild weather, food availability and sunshine.

Exterminators tell Global News that not only has the warmer, dryer weather led to a boom in local rodent population, they’re also being drawn outside by a warm engine or the smell leftover food in vehicles.

According to Siamoutas and his experience, rodents seem to have a penchant for a certain type of import, one that’s particularly expensive.

“I was talking to with an insurance company one time and they said it was something to do with the insulation on the German cars,” Siamoutas explained.

“One particular car i was working was a Mercedes and the whole harness was chewed on the engine side, there’s something with the insulation that coats the wiring that mice/rodents just seem to love.

” It’s chocolate for rodents.”

When it comes down to it, mechanics say safety is a concern, especially when it comes to an airbag that’s become a nest for rodents, making the ‘protective’ feature ineffective.
 
German engineers have know for years now that the soy based wiring harness insulation they use is a rodent magnet which has caused millions in damage, ask any insurance company. Yet they've steadfastly done nothing to remedy the problem. The don't deserve to sell another car until they remedy this very obvious problem with a very obvious solution.

Install some of these to give the rodents something better to eat.
I use it near my house for roof rats and have seen it work.
 
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Install some of these to give the rodents something better to eat.
I use it near my house for roof rats and have seen it work.
sounds like a wonderful idea but the media thing doesn't work for me. Something available on Amazon, right? Whats it called?
 
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