Thats a good example.How about All In the Family ?You see re-runs of that show anymore?
Should Confederate War Memorials/Statues Be Abolished?
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All in the Family is shown on the Sundance Channel on a regular basis.... literally 3 seconds on Google...
Are all the 70s shows still regularly shown as reruns on cable? Doubt it...
Again, no one is erasing any history.
Are all the 70s shows still regularly shown as reruns on cable? Doubt it...
Again, no one is erasing any history.
How about All In the Family ?
Yes.....I do...
Let me guess. It is shown in your child's school.
Let me guess.....you cannot read the post above.
I read it just fine. I'm not the one misquoting the other person over and over and over endlessly in this thread. And the All In The Family comment was a joke, just in case you had your sense of humor lobotomized.
"No one is erasing history". Yeah, I get it. Again, that's not what I said. I said that once you go down the path of removing statues and monuments, you won't be able to stop the process because eventually everything will be offensive and history will be forgotten/removed (eventually).
Ok all bickering aside...
I just think you are taking the issue to a hyperbolic extreme using the slippery slope argument. There is no evidence that we are proceeding down such a path due to the fact that people are removing Confederate statues or names from schools.
I realize you are expressing an opinion, but I feel it is still going to an extreme to make a point rather than consider the evidence at hand. The actions have not dictated the desire to remove and erase the history, but to remove the bestowment of an honor. There has never been any request to remove such images or history from museums or historical sites. That is an important distinction that prevents one from taking it to the extreme opinion.
My other examples listed were to prove that there is no deep rooted intent to remove or forget since the actions are limited to removing the the physical monuments from public spaces that are often reserved for other purposes.
The process already has a finite stopping point because no one, be it liberal, conservative or independent will tolerate further actions to remove the history from education curriculums, close down historical Civil War sites, or remove such items from museums. People don't want to go to a public park and see a statue honoring someone who would rather die than end slavery, but they have no problem learning about it and understanding its role in our history.
I just think you are taking the issue to a hyperbolic extreme using the slippery slope argument. There is no evidence that we are proceeding down such a path due to the fact that people are removing Confederate statues or names from schools.
I realize you are expressing an opinion, but I feel it is still going to an extreme to make a point rather than consider the evidence at hand. The actions have not dictated the desire to remove and erase the history, but to remove the bestowment of an honor. There has never been any request to remove such images or history from museums or historical sites. That is an important distinction that prevents one from taking it to the extreme opinion.
My other examples listed were to prove that there is no deep rooted intent to remove or forget since the actions are limited to removing the the physical monuments from public spaces that are often reserved for other purposes.
The process already has a finite stopping point because no one, be it liberal, conservative or independent will tolerate further actions to remove the history from education curriculums, close down historical Civil War sites, or remove such items from museums. People don't want to go to a public park and see a statue honoring someone who would rather die than end slavery, but they have no problem learning about it and understanding its role in our history.
There is no evidence. I agree. But I didn't say there was evidence. What I said (again and again and again) is that I believe that this is where it will lead...eventually. If you don't want to agree that the whole "I am offended by (insert latest object/concept/argument/debate)" is getting louder and louder, that's fine. We can agree to disagree. But it has taken a life of its own and eventually will consume those who started it, long after it consumed everyone else. Say I am hyperbolic or using the slippery slope argument too much, or whatever. Whatever it is that makes you feel better. I am concerned, you are not. Great.
Yet. But its coming.
It stuns me to hear you say "no one will tolerate further actions to remove history from education or close down historical civil war sites" etc. You and I must live in very different universes because the planet I am on has something happen just about daily - or at the very least weekly - where I shake my head at something that triggers someone, somewhere and where reasonable people let the screaming, frothing minority dictate what is and is not acceptable to the masses. And you think there is some border to reason that will prevent the fringe from going over the precipice. Oook.
Again, it is your belief that this action will lead to the hyperbole response you described. There is no frothing minority screaming for the removal of Civil War from our history. If you think about it, it is exactly the opposite. There are a MAJORITY of people who not only see nothing wrong with studying about that part of our history but demand that it be taught for the lessons learned.
Gettysburg is not a Confederate or Union biased history lesson. It is hallowed ground that teaches us important lessons about the past. Antietam and Manassas all are untouchable places. The story of the Civil War is such a strong part of American history from Slavery, changes in the economic model, President Lincoln, 100 years of Jim Crow, etc... The belief that there are people who want this history wiped out and never spoken of is just an exaggerated response to OTHER issues you are upset with and you are extended the actions to this.
There is NO fringe looking to erase Civil War from history, no one in the media or public space claiming it should be done or any hidden agenda suggestion such. Germany has not removed studies of the Holocaust from its educational system though it outlawed displays of swastikas and Third Reich salutes.
I am a history buff and have studied this in great detail and all the various sources of information and liberal and conservative opinions, none of them support anything related to erasing this history down the road.
Gettysburg is not a Confederate or Union biased history lesson. It is hallowed ground that teaches us important lessons about the past. Antietam and Manassas all are untouchable places. The story of the Civil War is such a strong part of American history from Slavery, changes in the economic model, President Lincoln, 100 years of Jim Crow, etc... The belief that there are people who want this history wiped out and never spoken of is just an exaggerated response to OTHER issues you are upset with and you are extended the actions to this.
There is NO fringe looking to erase Civil War from history, no one in the media or public space claiming it should be done or any hidden agenda suggestion such. Germany has not removed studies of the Holocaust from its educational system though it outlawed displays of swastikas and Third Reich salutes.
I am a history buff and have studied this in great detail and all the various sources of information and liberal and conservative opinions, none of them support anything related to erasing this history down the road.