Senseless killing in las vegas. What lessons to draw?

A basic principle of constitutional law is that the government is required to use the least restrictive means possible if it is necessary to limit a constitutional right. Since the vast majority of gun homicides are committed by blacks, it does seem logical to me that we should be discussing barring blacks from owning guns. They have proven to be highly irresponsible, unlike law-abiding white people.

No doubt some far left race hustlers will object, but if it saves even one innocent child's life, isn't it worth it?

And they are killing themselves, true story.
 
if guns would be forbidden these marginals would have no guns to shoot each other.
Come to Brazil, spend a few days in a "Favela" in Rio De Janeiro and see if that statement still holds.:)
and in Vegas nobody would have been killed, even not the well educated and intelligent Americans that were there and that where innocent people. in the US there are all the time shootings in schools, but that seems to be accepted and is just part of normal life. in Europe you never hear about that.

37 years of guns killed 20% more Americans then all the American wars together since 1775.


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I ask you a very simple question: We know that killing people is against the Law and that illegal guns exist. With those 2 things in mind, the questions is: Do you think that someone who is willing to break the law by killing dozens of people for nothing will respect a much "lighter" law such as the ban on the buying and selling of weapons?
 
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I think what AAA is referring to is where do the bulk of these shootings/killings occur? While we have unfortunate incidents like Vegas and Sandy Hook, the bulk comes from inner city drug violence. I don't think they go to their local gun store to purchase guns so banning them would not bring down the bulk of these murders. I don't have data to prove this, its just a hunch.
 
I ask you a very simple question: We know that killing people is against the Law and that illegal guns exist. With those 2 things in mind, the questions is: Do you think that someone who is willing to break the law by killing dozens of people for nothing will respect a much "lighter" law such as the ban on the buying and selling of weapons?

your question is manipulative. like telling: should we put people in prison, because they will do their crimes anyway. so, close all prisons and let criminals go ahead.

it is not about respect. it is about having the opportunity. willing to kill is one thing. being able to do so is a different one. with more shops then Mc Donalds restaurants, where you can buy guns freely it makes things a lot easier for killers. reduce opportunities and there will be less death because a number of killers will not be able to get a weapon, and surely not 40 weapons like in Vegas.

in Europe almost all weapons are banned. and we see there a completely different behavior. it is clear that banning weapons would be much better. if there would be a real ban, a lot of these killer would never be able to acquire a gun. there would surely not be 33,000 killings every year.
 
your question is manipulative. like telling: should we put people in prison, because they will do their crimes anyway. so, close all prisons and let criminals go ahead.

it is not about respect. it is about having the opportunity. willing to kill is one thing. being able to do so is a different one. with more shops then Mc Donalds restaurants, where you can buy guns freely it makes things a lot easier for killers. reduce opportunities and there will be less death because a number of killers will not be able to get a weapon, and surely not 40 weapons like in Vegas.

in Europe almost all weapons are banned. and we see there a completely different behavior. it is clear that banning weapons would be much better. if there would be a real ban, a lot of these killer would never be able to acquire a gun. there would surely not be 33,000 killings every year.
You actually just ran from the question and ignored facts, as usually people do:D. The only people who will actually not get the guns, are the people who are not willing to break the law in order to get their hands on guns, if these people are willing to break the law by buying illegal weapons, they will certainly not break the law by doing a mass shooting. These are the so called "la abiding citizens".
But a maniac who is obsessed with the idea of killing dozens of people will not measure efforts in order to get the guns or even invent other ways to do it, like bombs and the like, so that his objective is fulfilled.
 
You actually just ran from the question and ignored facts, as usually people do:D. The only people who will actually not get the guns, are the people who are not willing to break the law in order to get their hands on guns, if these people are willing to break the law by buying illegal weapons, they will certainly not break the law by doing a mass shooting. These are the so called "la abiding citizens".
But a maniac who is obsessed with the idea of killing dozens of people will not measure efforts in order to get the guns or even invent other ways to do it, like bombs and the like, so that his objective is fulfilled.

ban guns means ban guns. if they still can find guns it means there is no ban.

criminals have to break no law, they just go to any shop and buy what they wish. with approval of the American population and government.

so what is your proposal: let everybody buy weapons in quantities as they wish and we will live in a better world?

better less restrictions instead of more?
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/22/...r-gun-restrictions-and-more-gun-killings.html
 
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ban guns means ban guns. if they still can find guns it means there is no ban.

criminals have to break no law, they just go to any shop and buy what they wish. with approval of the American population and government.
In what world do you live? Do you think that by banning guns, all of a sudden all the guns in the world will simply disappear? You think that smugglers won't bring them in? As I said in an earlier post, here in Brazil guns are banned and the ban was made A LONG time ago... Still, people die from firearms here in a daily basis, despite the ban.
so what is your proposal: let everybody buy weapons in quantities as they wish and we will live in a better world?
My suggestion is to let everybody live their own lives in the way they wish, and as long as they don't try to force their own opinions on others and live in the REAL world, which has it's own inherent problems that are not solved by "dream solutions" that don't consider logic and facts.;)
 
Someone pointed out the Japanese do not have much of a gun/murder problem and why is this ? It is because of a violent history with a martial class system where the masses were violently repressed even for minor things. The USA has never been like this......yet.
 
ban guns means ban guns. if they still can find guns it means there is no ban.

criminals have to break no law, they just go to any shop and buy what they wish. with approval of the American population and government.

so what is your proposal: let everybody buy weapons in quantities as they wish and we will live in a better world?

better less restrictions instead of more?
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/22/...r-gun-restrictions-and-more-gun-killings.html

I have a novel idea. Lets ban Cocaine, Human Trafficking.
 
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