Scots Can Vote To Leave The UK, Why Can't We?

[AAAintheBeltway]

If you don't follow euro news, you might not be aware that Scotland will be voting on whether or not to leave the UK. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26071166

The United Kingdom is mature enough to have a civilized discussion on the subject, followed by a binding vote on the part of those who would be affected.

Reading this, it occurred to me how different the attitude here would be. We would be lectured that the country fought a Civil War to keep it entact, and it would take another one to break it up. At the same time, we supported efforts all over europe to break up countries into smaller units, eg the Soviet Union. We even fought a war against Serbia to force them to allow a province, Kosovo, to become independent. We demand that Israel give up territory it acquire d via war.

The same approach we force on weak foreign countries doesn't apply to us however. The idea of Southern independence is mocked by elites. They wouldn't consider allowing a vote of southern states.

At some point in the future we will be facing a different demand. Hispanic immigrants to the southwest will inevitably demand a separate "homeland" or to be allowed to become part of Mexico. Don't be surprised if the same liberals who disparage Southerners are sympathetic to these demands.

 

[Lucrum]

I never really understood the objection to people being able to separate themselves from someone else rule. Country boundaries and borders have changed many times over the course of history. I don't recall any of them being the end of man kind.
If the Kurds want a separate state, give it to'em.
If Quebec wants a separate state. What's the problem, give it to'em.
If the Scots want a separate state, so what. Let'em have it.
If the south wants to manage it own affairs, was it worth 620,000 American lives to preserve a union many no longer wanted?
The world got along just fine before the USA was formed. It'll get along just fine if we broke up into smaller countries.
Rule from afar is historically rife with problems.

 

[jem]

living in CA I would not want to see the people who vote for fiscal responsibility to leave the country. Frankly it is scary. But what is the Fed gov't going to do. Go in and kill the people who vote to leave?

 

[Lucrum]

living in CA I would not want to see the people who vote for fiscal responsibility to leave the country. Frankly it is scary.



But what is the Fed gov't going to do. Go in and kill the people who vote to leave?

Abraham Lincoln did...

 

[jem]

I know... and we have leftists like AK 47 say he would kill Americans to keep them part of the US... but frankly I would hope that few in the military or even homeland security would open fire on the people of Texas or any other state which chose to leave.

Abraham Lincoln did...

 

[gwb-trading]

"Scots Can Vote To Leave The UK, Why Can't We?"

You can vote all you want to leave the U.K (it was a done deal in 1783). The problem now is leaving the U.S.

 

[wjk]

I never really understood the objection to people being able to separate themselves from someone else rule.

The rulers would run out of other people's money.

 

[Lucrum]

I know... and we have leftists like AK 47 say he would kill Americans to keep them part of the US... but frankly I would hope that few in the military or even homeland security would open fire on the people of Texas or any other state which chose to leave.

I'm of the opinion that more than you or I would like to think will side with the federal government. BUT I'm also of the opinion that less than what the government worshipers would like to think will side with the government.

When the Soviet Union collapsed there were numerous accounts of troops refusing to squash fellow Russian protesters.

Look at Syria, some soldiers defected and joined the rebels. Some stayed with the military.

In 1860 some northerners went south to fight for states rights. Some southerners went north to fight for the preservation of the union.

One major issue with any future civil war/unrest. Is that the Mason Dixon line isn't as well defined as it used to be.

 

[bigarrow]

I agree we should be able to vote to leave the UK.

 

[Scataphagos]

living in CA I would not want to see the people who vote for fiscal responsibility to leave the country. Frankly it is scary. But what is the Fed gov't going to do. Go in and kill the people who vote to leave?

Of course not. The makers are the fiscally responsible and the "source of funds" for the Socialists to support their parasite dependents.

Government may not be able to stop makers from leaving, but they won't kill them.... they are the "goose which lays the golden egg of Socialism." Once the makers are bled dry, even the parasites will soon learn, "everybody having equal (read, nothing) ain't no fun."