S&P: Russia's rating now CCC-

[M.W.]

Exactly. This is alike opening pandoras box. You cant shut it later on once opened. When we indiscriminately judge people just because of their nationality then for me a red line is crossed.

Yes if you want to do the right thing because it opens up a whole can of worms just because of some kind of "emergency" because that can be used later at any time with any justification. What is to say that you or your children won't qualify as "rich motherfuckers" one day? And won't have spare assets? Just because you are rich and just because your assets are spare, you deserve to have your stuff taken away? How do you define rich? How do you define "spare"? You only need to sleep in one room at the end of the day, so all the other rooms in your house, should they be considered "spare"? Can the government come to your house and occupy all your rooms in your house except your bedroom if it doesn't like what you said or did? How do you define "rich"? Anybody making above the "poverty line"? Assuming you are single, the poverty line for a household with one person is just an income of $12,800 per year, so should the government considers you a rich motherfucker if you are making above this amount and seize your personal assets without any trials or investigations just because it doesn't like what you said or did?

Be careful what you wish for, this has happened and (happens still I am sure) in dictatorial regimes.

 

[M.W.]

The problem is that you are not supporting targeted sanctions but a blanket blame on everyone who has a certain nationality in their passport. Even your Russian neighbor who might put in more volunteer and community hours than even you, never associated with Putin is now targeted McCarthy style. That is the only thing you should be outraged about.

You are putting an hypothetical situation against a real invasion. It's totally fucked up.

I am against all wars. Now it's Russia invading so fuck off to Russia and all people defending Putin action, because the west is bad. Fucking pathetic.

 

[M.W.]

You are clearly running out of arguments and are controlled by anger and emotions. How about you debate the message and not attack the messenger?

The Dawn and M.W.

Your arguments are fucking pathetic.

You also stink... just registered and defending your mother Russia action. Fuck off both of you.

 

[M.W.]

Oh good grief. And this is everything that is wrong in this age. Can't let others' thoughts stand but you must scream and block and run away. This is why real problems don't get solved anymore. Because we don't want to listen to each others' arguments anymore.

In a previous post, you said that it made more sense to send troops that taking stuff from the rich. Those rich who support what you support. You are a joke and I am blocking your ass, and your comrade M.W.

 

[terr]

So, to appease a few consumers' feelings and emotions you justify the destruction of the lives of an entire race? No discrimination whether that Russian associates with Putin or not? Regardless of whether that Russian lives in Russia or next door in your neighborhood? Wow, that's a great ethical concern you display here.

I don't know if you know Russian. I do. These are your ordinary Russian citizens:

Russia needs to be denazified from such people.

 

[TheDawn]

A rogue government should never be the motivation to punish and destroy the lives of millions who live peacefully abroad or even under the pressure of said rogue government. Completely disproportionate and emotional response that clearly reflects the inability to go after the true perps. It is perfectly apparent that strategists and military leaders in the west don't comprehend that this is a chess game where victory is a function of many small battles that take time to play out. You hardly ever win a chess match by going straight after the king or queen from the very start.

Well you at least engage on the battlefield with weapons. This is why you have soldiers. You do not bring the war to the civilians. Only the weak go after weaponless civilians. This just shows how strong Biden is, picking on people's yachts. LOL

 

[terr]

The problem is that you are not supporting targeted sanctions but a blanket blame on everyone who has a certain nationality in their passport. Even your Russian neighbor who might put in more volunteer and community hours than even you, never associated with Putin is now targeted McCarthy style. That is the only thing you should be outraged about.

Absolute bullshit. People from Russia living abroad are not persecuted. Rossiyane (note: not Russians, citizens of Russia) may be, for their ties to and material support of the rogue pariah state of Russia.

 

[TheDawn]

Absolute bullshit. People from Russia living abroad are not persecuted. Rossiyane (note: not Russians, citizens of Russia) may be, for their ties to and material support of the rogue pariah state of Russia.

Yes they are: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-60565520

Ukraine crisis: Russian ballet company's remaining UK tour dates cancelled
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-60553827

What have the conductor done? Because he refused to denounce Russia and Putin? And what have these ballerinas done? They are not the Russian oligarchs; they are not "criminal gangs". "Meanwhile, some venues that are due to host the Russian State Opera have cancelled performances by the company.". The Russian State Opera is not even Russian; the name "State Opera" is in name only; it's actually a UK company and yet it got cancelled just because it's got "State Opera" in its name.

It's only a matter of time that ordinary Russian civilians living in the West get attacked just like the Asians living in the West, Asians who weren't even from China or the rest of Asia, but weren't born and raised in the West, were attacked because of the pandemic by some idiot losers like @cesfx who thinks it's justified to do so just because they want to take out their own s*** on people due to their own pathetic lives.

And oh what are we going to call the "Russian roulette" now? Freedom roulette? LOL

 

[terr]

Yes they are: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-60565520

Ukraine crisis: Russian ballet company's remaining UK tour dates cancelled
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-60553827

What have the conductor done? Because he refused to denounce Russia and Putin? And what have these ballerinas done? They are not the Russian oligarchs; they are not "criminal gangs".

They are citizens of a rogue pariah state and when the state is isolated, its citizens are isolated as well.

The Russian State Opera is not even Russian; the name "State Opera" is in name only; it's actually a UK company and yet it got cancelled just because it's got "State Opera" in its name.

Cool then it can disband, reform under a different name and start touring.

It's only a matter of time that ordinary Russian civilians living in the West get attacked

I was born in Russia. All my friends know that. I lived in the West for 40+ years. Have not encountered even one instance of russophobia, neither back during the Cold War nor now. But then my friends know that I think Putin is a rabid dog with nuclear weapons and rabid dogs require extraordinary measures.

If I in any way defended Putin, I would probably get weird looks. But it would not be because I was born in Russia. It would be because they would think I am an idiot.

 

[TheDawn]

They are citizens of a rogue pariah state and when the state is isolated, its citizens are isolated as well.

Cool then it can disband, reform under a different name and start touring.

I was born in Russia. All my friends know that. I lived in the West for 40+ years. Have not encountered even one instance of russophobia, neither back during the Cold War nor now. But then my friends know that I think Putin is a rabid dog with nuclear weapons and rabid dogs require extraordinary measures.

If I in any way defended Putin, I would probably get weird looks. But it would not be because I was born in Russia. It would be because they would think I am an idiot.

The same were for those Asians who got attacked. They were born in the West and lived their whole lives in the West and they got attacked just the same. Wars do not allow people to be rational. Seeing how Asians who were born and raised in the West were brutally attacked in the West because of the pandemic when they had absolutely nothing to do with the pandemic, I strongly suggest you apply for a gun license and start packing. But then again maybe nobody would dare to attack you cuz Russians have a stereotype of being tough not because you think Putin is an idiot which is what we all think too. We just think there should be a different way of bringing idiots under control, not by seizing people's boats. LOL

Anyway good luck and stay safe!