Russia & Ukraine

[Tsing Tao]

So what, every Russian gets a job on an oil rig?

No, they have the same jobs they have now. Not a whole lot of the Russian population has a job connected with the West in any way. Sure, there are professionals working for western companies, but not nearly as many as you may believe.

and how much you want to bet that Chinese companies don't quickly move in to take market share in a resource rich country?

 

[Bugenhagen]

Sorry to hear that.Some people are taking this seriously,as they should imo.I wouldn't be moving yet though.NY would certainly be one of the first places hit.

To be fair he and his wife are both visually impaired.

Though my wife is also, I am making my own plans to take up the cause as I firmly believe its time for action to speak louder.

Its fully expected for the US to hold back, the US has always been very, very slow to engage an enemy that could actually hurt it as asymmetric engagement is the style.

Europeans on the other hand need to deal with the back yard and more than capable. In my experience Ukrainians are quite dickish as a people very often, the overt racism toward African students evacuating etc. no surprise but it would get a whole lot worse under Russia.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Although it is a bit of an obscure story right now, I think it is noteworthy- as I mentioned in passing the other day- that Kazakhstan/sp is distancing itself bigtime from Putin over this matter and they are supposed to be a Putin buddy.

K-stan has refused Putin's request to send troops to Ukraine, they have refused to recognize the breakaway provinces in Ukraine and they are sending humanitarian aid to Ukraine. NOT THE WAY THE SCRIPT IS SUPPOSED TO GO.

This hurts Putin bigtime in his relations with China too because China's playbook is to have the west alienate Putin, then Russia becomes more dependant on China and China uses Vlad's alleged closeness and tighness with the Central Asian states to help China exploit/increase its control in Central Asia. WOMP!!!! Otherwise, they think Puting is the village idiot and the junior partner in any agreements with China. If Vlad loses influence in Central Asia what does he bring to the table? Just oil. And now Russia is too poor to continue to help Venezuela revitalize its oil production- the largest oil reserve in the world. But China and the US do have the dollars to go down that road with VZ.

Okay, enough. Just felt like sticking a few things up Putin's arse.

To that point...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499063822736367623

 

[El OchoCinco]

the overt racism toward African students evacuating etc.

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I saw that news clip..... you are being fucking invaded by Russia who is attacking and killing you yet you still find time to be racist fucks.....almost lost all sympathy at that point..

 

[UsualName]

No, they have the same jobs they have now. Not a whole lot of the Russian population has a job connected with the West in any way. Sure, there are professionals working for western companies, but not nearly as many as you may believe.

and how much you want to bet that Chinese companies don't quickly move in to take market share in a resource rich country?

Really? That’s interesting. The amazing self sustaining Russian economy.

We’ll see if the Russian government can handle the sanctions or not but don’t rule the Russian economy devolving into bartering a la early 1990s.

https://globaledge.msu.edu/countries/russia/tradestats

 

[Tsing Tao]

Really? That’s interesting. The amazing self sustaining Russian economy.

We’ll see if the Russian government can handle the sanctions or not but don’t rule the Russian economy devolving into bartering a la early 1990s.

https://globaledge.msu.edu/countries/russia/tradestats

So if you don't mess with energy and minerals, and China trade stays intact, what new opportunity is there?

Oh, and then there's wheat exports which will unlikely to be touched (China certainly won't cancel them no matter what).

I know! Maybe all those Russian lumberjacks will feel it if we cancel their sawn wood trade!

Ya gotta make tough decisions if you want to put the screws to the economy.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

And the Mexican guy told him ....''We're NOT going to pay for the fucking wall.''

But they ended up paying for it. Trump was brilliant on that one.

 

[El OchoCinco]

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So if you don't mess with energy and minerals, and China trade stays intact, what new opportunity is there?

Oh, and then there's wheat exports which will unlikely to be touched (China certainly won't cancel them no matter what).

I know! Maybe all those Russian lumberjacks will feel it if we cancel their sawn wood trade!

Ya gotta make tough decisions if you want to put the screws to the economy.

Are those numbers for the month of November only or the year to date of 2021... because russia's wheat exports are way more than 2.2% of that total in a given year so just wanted to understand the chart.

They do about 35 million MT year and at an average of $300 /MT that is almost 1/3 of that 36B number so just want the context.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Are those numbers for the month of November only or the year to date of 2021... because russia's wheat exports are way more than 2.2% of that total in a given year so just wanted to understand the chart.

They do about 35 million MT year and at an average of $300 /MT that is almost 1/3 of that 36B number so just want the context.

Just November. It's not all that different on an annual basis if you look at the percentages. Wheat actually goes down.

Here you go.

https://oec.world/en/profile/country/rus

The point is, if you're not going to go after the big meat, you're not going to make a big dent in the Russian economy. Not enough to make the people move towards getting rid of Putin.

 

[Bugenhagen]

I saw that news clip..... you are being fucking invaded by Russia who is attacking and killing you yet you still find time to be racist fucks.....almost lost all sympathy at that point..

They have been developmentally isolated and every population has its minority cons and lib majority set in brain biology. I give them a pass for now as it's a phase poor and isolated/corrupt nations go through. Many I know in Louisiana are no better

Poland is also really institutionally racist for similar reasons. But its still better than under Putin..