Originally posted by stu
2. You experienced non existence before you were born. No Time no space, no concept of what no time and no space could be.
See ......you have experienced it !
sure you have. we all have. simply ask yourself, "what was my life like 3 million years ago?" i don't know about you, but i certainly can't think of anything. that's what non existence is. as i've said before, imo being alive is the result of your brain turned "on." you weren't aware of your existence before you were born, and you won't be aware of it when you die...imo.Originally posted by aphexcoil
The hardest question I've ever had to grapple with is -- if there was no existence, what would there be? It seems like I can't begin to comprehend a state of non-existence, but from everything I have noticed in the world, a state of non-existence seems impossible.
My entire life, I have known what it feels like to exist. Non-existence has never occured to me, so I can only speak from personal experiences when I say that non-existence probably doesn't exist, since I've never experienced it.
if you didn't exist, how did it go by in a blind of an eye? you didn't exist to compare it to anything.Originally posted by aphexcoil
Well, if I was non-existent for 15 billion years, it sure went by in a blink of an eye. So, if I become non-existent again and it take 100 trillion years for something to happen to cause me to "experience existence" again, I probably also will have a wait equal to "the blink of an eye."
The only problems I have about all of that are -- if I existed before, what happened to all those life-experiences and are they stored somewhere? However, that is more of a metaphysical approach to life, though.
Originally posted by stu
So we can take that as being 'Word of God' eh ?
For someone who knows so much "Bible Truth" that is as evil as it gets isn't it?
Which bit of your Bible taught you to respond like that then?
Your God Commands You To Control Your Tongue
"Jesus called the crowd to him and said, 'Listen and understand.
What goes into a man's mouth does not make him unclean,
But what come out of his mouth, that is what makes him unclean.'"
Matthew 15:10-11
No one could ever get any so called "Truth" from you or your like. You don't even follow your own beliefs
Originally posted by Gordon Gekko
thunderbolt, you have really outdone yourself this time. "baboon's ass." lol
evolution RULES. i laugh knowing you evolved from ape like animals and you just can't accept it. i guess you're just a little less evolved than i am.
i'd really love to know what your thoughts are on something like this:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/tryit/evolution/indext.html
is it just a coincidence? a total lie? what? you tell me.
Originally posted by aphexcoil
I think you can say that evolution and creation theories can be combined nicely if you just consider the fact that god "created evolution."

3 million years ago the atoms existed, yes. however, you are the collective organization of those atoms. this organization which makes you who you are DID NOT exist 3 million years ago...so i don't think it's a good point to say you existed 3 million years ago just because your atoms did. my house is made of pieces of wood. did my house exist 3 million years ago because the wood's atoms did? no.Originally posted by aphexcoil
3 million years ago I existed. Every atom in my body has existed for ever. They just somehow managed to get together from a series of events that took place to create me.