Poll: Majority of Americans Oppose the Tea party

[jem]

Quote from hermit:

The liberals are still against the Patriot Act and are angry with the Obama administration for continuing it.

As for healthcare, the topmost Conservative think tank Heritage Foundation had a stronger plan with a public option for years, does that make them socialist, commie big govt spenders?

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Re...Credits-to-Create-an-Affordable-Health-System

And we have seen how Conservative administrations were for less spending and less intrusion, like the one which passed Medicare Part D.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_Part_D

You are calling neo con artists- conservatives... thats bullshit.

Neo Cons started as socialists and still act that way.
Irving Kristol - the first former trotskyist was the founder.
They showed themselves willing to discredit consdervatives so badly the country elected a socialist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism


Don't even think about sticking Medicare Part D on conservatives. That was socialists and cronyists calling themselves Neo Cons and almost destoying America.

 

[hermit]

Quote from jem:

You are calling neo con artists- conservatives... thats bullshit.

Neo Cons started as socialists and still act that way.
Irving Kristol - the first former trotskyist was the founder.
They showed themselves willing to discredit consdervatives so badly the country elected a socialist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism


Don't even think about sticking Medicare Part D on conservatives. That was socialists and cronyists calling themselves Neo Cons and almost destoying America.

So the overwhelming majority of Republican party are neocon socialists?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medica...nt,_and_Modernization_Act#Legislative_history
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00458

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll332.xml

 

[trefoil]

phenomena: Friedman could have called himself a Wookie, for all I or anyone else cares.
Also, even Gladstone, who preceded the period Wikipedia was talking about, was a reformer in the same sense that any American liberal today would recognize.
Like I said, you can call yourself whatever you want to too, but anyone, including in Europe, would recognize you for the right-wing xenophobic extremist you are.

 

[phenomena]

LOL!! Name calling and baseless slander from a socialist, what a surprise... LOL!!! I'm not interested in your ignorant, uninformed nonsense. You need to get around a bit more, because you have absolutely no fucking clue about europe which your naive and ignorant posts in this thread have very fully demonstrated...

You say anyone would recognize me as a "right wing xenophobic extremist", yet no one seems to think that at all except for you and your small handful of socialist circle jerk buddies here on ET. In fact that's not what they call me in europe. You know what they DO call me in Europe?? A LIBERAL.

I would, however, be interested to know what in your feeble mind qualifies me as being "right wing, or "xenophobic", or "extremist". Perhaps you can share with me exactly what it is that qualifies me as such?

Quote from trefoil:

phenomena: Friedman could have called himself a Wookie, for all I or anyone else cares.
Also, even Gladstone, who preceded the period Wikipedia was talking about, was a reformer in the same sense that any American liberal today would recognize.
Like I said, you can call yourself whatever you want to too, but anyone, including in Europe, would recognize you for the right-wing xenophobic extremist you are.

 

[jem]

Quote from hermit:

So the overwhelming majority of Republican party are neocon socialists?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medica...nt,_and_Modernization_Act#Legislative_history
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00458

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll332.xml

they certainly were not conservatives.
and many of them are scumbags who got elected for the sake of power. They did not govern well and I they should not be re elected.

that was a rotten bunch of republicans losers.
They had a chance to institute a flat tax.
They had a chance to change Social security to something viable.
They had a chance to root out lobbying and corruption.
They had a chance to change things to a more libertarian conservative - fiscally responsible way.

What they produce was the worst record of governance up until the current crop of democrats.

 

[phenomena]

Distance myself from him? How was I ever "close" to him? I wasn't I have no idea who he is... Besides, unbeknownst to your narcisistic brain this is a fucking anonymous internet message board. Not some well known public political forum where people know who is who. I have nothing to hide about my views anywhere, but most of all not on an anonymous internet message board. If I was racist, I'd tell ya. If I have non PC views, you'll fucking hear about it. Like I need to pull some political maneuvering and "watch who my friends are" on fcking ET?! ROFLMAO!!!!Quit acting like you are on television or something WTF, are you kidding me? Wow, you are a walking condom advertisement.

Well then I guess by your logic we can deduce that you are gay since you defend gays (and constantly create threads about gays).

Why else would your first thought be that since he defends the tea party, that he is with the tea party? ROFLMAO!! The truth comes out!!! No wonder you are a hateful brainwashed crackpot! Maybe if you just came out of the closet you wouldn't feel the need to be such a sociopath. Good luck coming to terms with your sexual orientation.

Quote from hermit:

Trying to distance yourself from him eh?

So he is defending the tea party because he is not a tea partier?

 

[hermit]

Quote from phenomena:

Well I guess by your logic we can deduce that you are gay since you defend gays (and constantly create threads about gays).

Why else would your first thought be that since he defends the tea party, that he is with the tea party? ROFLMAO!! The truth comes out!!! No wonder you are a hateful brainwashed crackpot! Maybe if you just came out of the closet you wouldn't feel the need to be such a sociopath. Good luck coming to terms with your sexual orientation.

Nice logic, guy has 300 posts defending right wing causes and the tea party but how in the world does that prove he is a right winger or a tea partier.

To recap, HelloDollar makes this comment to explain the low poll numbers for Tea Partier here.

Quote from HelloDollar:

A quarter of the U.S. is Mud People. Another 8% are either Jews or fags. Throw in 2% Muslims and another 5% Asian. That means only 55% of America is straight, non-Jewish whites. Out of that remaining 55% I'd say a third or so are seedy, leftist whites. So that means, under 40% of America is actually worth shit. If Tea Party members are a third of the population, that means 80% of American's who aren't Ignorant Minorities support the movement.

Now this is no way in support of the tea party according to phenomena, how could he be since we have not seen his Tea Party registration mugshot.

 

[hermit]

Quote from phenomena:

Distance myself from him? How was I ever "close" to him? I wasn't I have no idea who he is... Besides, unbeknownst to your narcisistic brain this is a fucking anonymous internet message board. Not some well known public political forum where people know who is who. I have nothing to hide about my views anywhere, but most of all not on an anonymous internet message board. If I was racist, I'd tell ya. If I have non PC views, you'll fucking hear about it. Like I need to pull some political maneuvering and "watch who my friends are" on fcking ET?! ROFLMAO!!!!Quit acting like you are on television or something WTF, are you kidding me? Wow, you are a walking condom advertisement.

Perhaps its too complex for ya but what 'distancing yourself from him' means that your trying to claim he is not a tea partier when he said those things in SUPPORT of the tea party.

Quote from phenomena:
Well then I guess by your logic we can deduce that you are gay since you defend gays (and constantly create threads about gays).

Why else would your first thought be that since he defends the tea party, that he is with the tea party? ROFLMAO!! The truth comes out!!! No wonder you are a hateful brainwashed crackpot! Maybe if you just came out of the closet you wouldn't feel the need to be such a sociopath. Good luck coming to terms with your sexual orientation.

You are trying to whitewash his comment by saying he said those things unrelated to the tea party which he in fact did.

And just a reminder in case you forgot your own words.

Quote from phenomena:

If you don't like someones views and want to discuss that, fine, that's what this forum is for. Personal attacks via insults/name calling is not. The fact that you have to resort to them is a clear sign of your decisive defeat in a debate.

 

[jem]

Quote from jem:

they certainly were not conservatives.
and many of them are scumbags who got elected for the sake of power. They did not govern well and I they should not be re elected.

that was a rotten bunch of republicans losers.
They had a chance to institute a flat tax.
They had a chance to change Social security to something viable.
They had a chance to root out lobbying and corruption.
They had a chance to change things to a more libertarian conservative - fiscally responsible way.

What they produce was the worst record of governance up until the current crop of democrats.

by the way I know this looks like I took the easy way out.

But, note when Obama was doing nothing but blame bush and fox for his problems - I wrote a post that he should stop being a pussy and do something.

Well he did. And we found out that socialism and pork spending does not work and is not wanted by the electorate.

So I give props to Obama for governing with an agenda.

I just hope the future crop of republicans have some balls to govern as conservatives.

 

[phenomena]

Absolute bullshit. I have never seen any evidency that he is a "tea partier" as you coined. I have actually participated in Tea Party events, am semi active in the Libertarian Party, belong to Classical Liberal organizations etc. If I wanted to, I could prove all these items.

I have never seen Hello dollar claim to be a memeber of a tea party organization. Just because he has offered a supportive comment or two to the tea party doesn't make him a "tea partier". I have offered comments supporting Barak Obama, and I sure as fuck don't like his politics. I have offered supportive comments toward gays, yet I am not gay and have never had a homosexual experience. I have offered supportive comments toward many groups which I am not a member of.

If hello dollar made some statement in support of the tea party, that's great, but it doesn't make him a member of a tea party organization, and I have seen no evidence that he is.

Quote from hermit:

Perhaps its too complex for ya but what 'distancing yourself from him' means that your trying to claim he is not a tea partier when he said those things in SUPPORT of the tea party.



You are trying to whitewash his comment by saying he said those things unrelated to the tea party which he in fact did.

And just a reminder in case you forgot your own words.