Watching the Beck rally its becomes increasingly obvious that what they want is a theocracy.
Poll: Majority of Americans Oppose the Tea party
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true liberals... classical liberals are now - libertarians.
Current liberals are big govt - big spending - take over decisions and industries like health care... and they were only against the patriot act because Bush was for it.
I see no evidence that 95% of the current socialist in govt are against govt intrusion onto our basic rights.
For instance -- the balls of those commie asses telling us we have to buy health insurance.
That is the most grossly unconstitutional thing I have seen govt me do in years and your democrat leaders did it.
The liberals are still against the Patriot Act and are angry with the Obama administration for continuing it.
As for healthcare, the topmost Conservative think tank Heritage Foundation had a stronger plan with a public option for years, does that make them socialist, commie big govt spenders?
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Re...Credits-to-Create-an-Affordable-Health-System
And we have seen how Conservative administrations were for less spending and less intrusion, like the one which passed Medicare Part D.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_Part_D
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'On the August 25 edition of his radio show Beck said,' "I am only writing a few bullet points" for his 8-28 speech "so that I don't get in the way of the spirit in case he wants to talk."
"A miracle" will occur on 8-28
"I expect a miracle on 8-28." On his July 22 radio show, Beck said "I expect a miracle on 8-28. Witness it with me. Make history."
Beck: "What is going to happen on 8-28 will be a miracle." On his television show on August 11, Beck claimed that "what is going to happen on 8-28 will be a miracle." Beck told his viewers that he is "filled with great hope because I remember, not what I've said to you, but what I know to be true. I've said for some time now, expect miracles." He also told his listeners: "Literally, expect to see miracles. Great, powerful miracles are coming."
Beck asks listeners to "be a part of an American miracle" on 8-28. On the August 23 edition of his radio show, Beck encouraged his listeners to attend his Restoring Honor rally by asking them to "be a part of an American miracle." Beck appealed to his listeners by saying: "Please, if you are not thinking of coming to 8-28, or there's some reason, you're thinking, 'Oh I'm not really sure' -- something miraculous is going to happen on Saturday."
Beck says that "something miraculous is going to happen" at his 8-28 rally. On the August 16 edition of his radio show, Beck claimed that he doesn't "know how many people will come" but that "something miraculous is going to happen." Beck suggested that "your life, your fortune, and your country are at stake." He further stated that "if the people show up, I think it's going to provide a shockwave to this nation." Beck told his listeners they need to "return to God, or we are going to be buried in the rubble of history."
http://mediamatters.org/research/201008270031
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Friday, Aug 27, 2010 07:01 ET
"Is Glenn Beck profiting from his "Restoring Honor" rally?
Saturday's self-promotional, "non-political" rally will raise money for -- and be financed by -- a charity
By Justin Elliott
Salon/AP
Glenn BeckDespite Glenn Beck's insistence that his "Restoring Honor" rally at the Lincoln Memorial on Saturday is devoted to honoring troops, the event is, indisputably, all about Glenn Beck.
Dubbed "Beckapalooza" by Politico, it has already garnered Beck untold hours of free media coverage and, however high or low the turnout is, it is guaranteed to make Beck the center of attention for a few more media cycles next week. For a man selling books -- "Arguing With Idiots" comes out in paperback Sept. 14 -- free media is a valuable thing.
So it's worth noting that Saturday's rally -- and all the publicity that will come with it -- isn't going to cost Beck a cent. That's because it's being organized as a fundraiser for a charity, the Special Operations Warrior Foundation. And, as the fine print at the bottom of the Restoring Honor website notes, "All contributions made to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF) will first be applied to the costs of the Restoring Honor Rally." One SOWF official estimated the rally will cost $1 million. The rest of the money will go to SOWF, which says it provides scholarships to children of special operations soldiers killed in action or in training.
So Beck and Sarah Palin, his fellow featured speaker, will get their free self-promotion rally, and SOWF will get the rest; they've reportedly already raised $5 million. (The event was originally billed as the unveiling of a new Beck book called "The Plan," which would outline steps to take over the next 100 years to "restore our great country." That was later scrapped for a vague focus on restoring honor.)
The one catch is that the sponsorship of SOWF -- a tax-exempt charity -- means that the event cannot be "political," as Beck's promotional literature emphasizes.
But this does not mean that Beck is barred from making political statements. To the IRS, nonpolitical actually means nonpartisan, said Brett Kappel, a campaign finance lawyer at Arent Fox in Washington. "If speakers endorsed specific candidates or political parties at the event, that could create an IRS problem for the charity," Kappel told Salon.
That may explain why Beck felt free on Thursday to say of the rally: "This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement." Tea Party groups have also reportedly provided financial assistance for the rally.
Time reported today that SOWF has required speakers, including Palin, to sign an agreement "not to talk politics." On Saturday, we'll see what that really means."
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/...lenn_beck_special_operations_rally/index.html
It's amazing that 29% of the American public supports ANY party other than Democrats or Republicans. Most third-party candidates are lucky to get 2%.
Quote from hermit:
Nearly three in 10 Americans say they are supporters of the Tea Party, according to a new survey, while more than half the respondents say they hold negative opinions of the conservative grassroots movement.
A CBS News Poll released Thursday found 29 percent of those asked considered themselves Tea Party supporters and 54 percent did not. Fully 17 percent had no opinion either way.
The results are similar to last month's but show more support for the Tea Party than in April of this year, CBS said.
Not surprisingly, a majority -- 56 percent -- of Tea Party supporters identified as conservative. Of those, 44 percent are Republicans, while 43 percent said they are independents. Not many at all, only 13 percent, called themselves Democrats.
The survey also asked Tea Party supporters what they think of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who has become an icon of the movement. Forty-five percent of Republicans, 41 percent of conservatives and 49 percent of Tea Partiers hold favorable opinions of Palin, according to CBS.
But among the public overall, Palin doesn't get such positive ratings. Only 23 percent of respondents have a favorable opinion of the former vice presidential candidate, while 40 percent view her unfavorably.
Read the poll results, including its sampling methods, here.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20014854-503544.html
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/08/26/nearly-30-percent-support-tea-party-poll-finds/
The italicized is an ahistorical bit of claptrap promoted by conservatives. It is completely wrong.
The Liberal Party of England, which went the way of the dodo after WWI, was done in by the rise of the Labor Party. Half of the party wound up in Labor, the other half with the Tories, which is doubtless the equivalent of what would happen to the Democrats if a flat out Labor Party were to arise here in the US.
If you read The Strange Death of Liberal England
(which I would recommend; it's both entertaining and enlightening) you will recognize in the old, nineteenth century Liberal Party of England the exact template of the modern Democratic Party.
As for the stupid idea that the recent health care bill is in any way shape manner or form unconstitutional, when what was passed is weaker than Medicare, which has only been around for half a century, well, stupid pretty much sums that idea up.
It's not "claptrap" it's absolute historical fact, and I am not a conservative. There is very little which is "conservative" about my platform. *I* am the liberal here, not you. The term "liberal" described people with my views hundreds of years before you guys hijacked it. It had been used to describe us for centuries before you stole it.
From Adam Smith, Frederic Bastiat, Jean-Baptiste Say, John Locke, David Hume, and Thomas Jefferson all the way to Bertrand Russell, Hayek, Von Mises, and Milton Friedman. We were called liberals before you guys even existed.
From Adam Smith, Frederic Bastiat, Jean-Baptiste Say, John Locke, David Hume, and Thomas Jefferson all the way to Bertrand Russell, Hayek, Von Mises, and Milton Friedman. We were called liberals before you guys even existed.
Yea, the CNN pole had them at 35%. 35% within a few years of existence, that's enormous! This has clearly hit home with America and lots of people identify with the sentiment. People don't trust either side, and they shouldn't... People are finally starting to see that the only good government is a small, limited one.