Pat Robertson Tells Grieving Mother Her Dead Baby Could’ve Grown Up to Be Hitler

its you duty to enlighten people
Child:
I didn't know anything about God or sin. So would that mean I'd go to hell?
Believer:
No you wouldn't if you didn't know.
Child:
Then why did you tell me?
 
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How would it be anything like a great leap for mankind to join with Pat Robertson's or Jem's stumbling superstitions?
Enlighten!
 
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I disagree . . . its you duty to enlighten people, no matter how stubborn they may appear to be

if not you then who ? ?
Actually I disagree, respectfully. It is our duty to enlighten people who are asking to be enlightened. Allow me to expand on that thought.
As I've written here before I do a considerable amount of work with people suffering from and trying to recover from alcohol and drug addiction. In my 30 years of experience with this I have found it an exercise in futility to carry a message of hope and recovery to those that demonstrate no interest in that message. It is not for me to judge who should get "enlightened". There are plenty of people asking for help for whom I can deliver the message.
I would think it the same for spiritual enlightenment. If they're asking questions, then by all means share your experience. If not, let people go their own way. My motto is, help save those who are asking to be saved. There is no shortage of them.
 
My motto is, help save those who are asking to be saved.
I'd just say the effects of alcohol drugs and religion can in many ways be very similar and saving people from them extremely worthy. I don't think Pat Robertson would ever ask, but surely someone should save him and those like him from religion.
 
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I'd just say the effects of alcohol drugs and religion can in many ways be very similar and saving people from them extremely worthy. I don't think Pat Robertson would ever ask, but surely someone should save him and those like him from religion.
The Cap'n's point is, whether saving them is worthy or not, they cannot be saved if they don't want to be saved.
 
I'd just say the effects of alcohol drugs and religion can in many ways be very similar and saving people from them extremely worthy. I don't think Pat Robertson would ever ask, but surely someone should save him and those like him from religion.
You twisted my point a little. Religion, alcohol, drugs, whatever that is done to excess becomes a perversion. Robertson doesn't need to be saved from religion. Religion needs to be saved from the likes of Robertson. I put him in the Jim Jones, Westboro Baptist Church types. They're all nuts.
 
Robertson makes the news, but that doesn't mean he gets to be the face of Christianity. He and his type are imo vastly outnumbered by millions who live, work, laugh, love, struggle, suffer, and die, who have quietly taken comfort during their lives in prayer and their personal belief in a creator who makes it all meaningful and bearable. They are the true face of Christianity.
 
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