Palin More Qualified Than Obama

[RacerXXXXX]

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"I've got my bases covered. I've been to all 57 states."

 

[Yannis]

Quote from cgroupman:

I think perhaps a better discusson point might be to compare VP candidates. The candidates themselves have already been picked. Choosing a Biden, long time Senator with tons of global experience vs. an unknown from Alaska? Whether you agree with the politics of either Obama, Biden, McCain or Palin, the parallels are just simply not there VP wise. The Dems are saying that she was picked primarily in an attempt to energize the evangelicals again, and if it doesn't work, then no real harm done to any viable future Republican candidates. The Reps seem to be saying that somehow she magically appeared on the scene just in time to save the U.S. from liberals. Well, the whole thing is just a bit weird in my mind. Being in the middle, I simply have to say that there are dozens of good solid Republicans that I would rather see as a heartbeat away than this Alaskan governor. She may very well have had her time in the future, but probably not after this fiasco.c

Of course, you skipped over the fact that, when it comes down to real executive experience, she's a lot more qualified than Obama himself, right? And by fiasco you mean that the left is horrified and therefore busy trying to muddy her reputation? Don't worry, we will overcome.

 

[arealpissedgoy]

Quote from Yannis:

Of course, you skipped over the fact that, when it comes down to real executive experience, she's a lot more qualified than Obama himself, right? And by fiasco you mean that the left is horrified and therefore busy trying to muddy her reputation? Don't worry, we will overcome.

You are an abortion candidate. A prime one at that.

You are so god damned fucking stupid, I wonder how you even manage to put your trousers on.

Or is it depends all the way?

 

[RacerXXXXX]

Quote from arealpissedgoyl:

You are an abortion candidate. A prime one at that.

You are so god damned fucking stupid, I wonder how you even manage to put your trousers on.

Or is it depends all the way?

There you go again, acting out because you are jealous of the USA. You must lead a pathetic life.

Stop sucking on kangaroo dicks and do something productive with your life.

 

[cgroupman]

Quote from Yannis:

Of course, you skipped over the fact that, when it comes down to real executive experience, she's a lot more qualified than Obama himself, right? And by fiasco you mean that the left is horrified and therefore busy trying to muddy her reputation? Don't worry, we will overcome.

I don't like all the finger pointing and name calling here on ET. And I understand that the Dems are doing their best, as the Reps do, to come up with dirt on the other side.

By fiasco, I simply mean all this that you're seeing. Whether based in fact, as some charges are, or if mere mud slinging, either way it could very well serve as fiasco for her instead of her party overall. That's all I'm saying.

As far as real executive experience, well, sometimes good, sometimes not so good. We've had quite a few over the last few years on the negative side, after all was said and done. Ken Lay and all the rest, who cares if left or right, just thieves. But, if they weren't caught, then who knows, maybe they'd be a VP candidate.

The women I speak with are upset for a different reason. How can she leave her children, especially a new born with issues? I agree, not exactly women's lib types, but caring people nonetheless.

We'll see how it all pans out, and hopefully her family won't be negatively impacted by, yes, the mud slinging from the other side.



c

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from arealpissedLITTLEBOY:

You are an abortion candidate. A prime one at that.

You are so god damned fucking stupid, I wonder how you even manage to put your trousers on.

Or is it depends all the way?

You mean he WAS an abortion candidate?
I mean how to you abort a grown man?

Now I'm not a real doctor but I do play one on ET. And based on your self righteous, delusional, arrogant posting history I've concluded that not only are you an obviously unhappy and angry little boy. You're almost certainly suffering from small penis syndrome as well.

No need to continue suffering son, they have meds for that sort of thing.

Well not the small penis thing of course, I'm afraid you just stuck with that.

 

[JWS11]

Quote from arealpissedgoy:

You are an abortion candidate. A prime one at that. You are so god damned fucking stupid, I wonder how you even manage to put your trousers on. Or is it depends all the way?

Is that how you talk to others at home or at work? Or, is it that since you are anonymous here you just feel free to show your real intellectual level by insulting whoever disagrees with you? You show yourself to be 1000 times worse than any of your victims, man, cut it off and grow up!

 

[JWS11]

Quote from Yannis:

I believe another valid angle here is to look at stakeholders and how that list changes and evolves. I mean, many years ago, we had the British and the Americans (overlapping populations but two distinct ideologies) and it was easy to tell who is who. The Revoution ended and we became a nation.

As the parties worked to define themselves, we had North vs South, the civil war, another set of distinct, but somewhat overlapping, ideologies. Then the parties had the playing field to themselves - Democrat vs Republican for many years, and one could still see two ideologies but it was getting confused: which party was for education? defense? industry? civil rights? To a great extent, they both were.

Now, the country is a lot more mature and even more wealthy. Concerns that focused on "can I live with what I can get?" are giving way to interests like "is this the biggest piece of the pie I can get my hands on?" Wealth distribution vs wealth creation. Instead of giving power to the party that makes the pie bigger, give it to the party that will give me a bigger piece of the pie, because, after all, the pie is big enough.

It happened to all great Empires over the course of history: Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Spanish, English, etc. It's happening to us as we speak. I lived through, first hand, something similar as it happened to the biggest corporation of its time, the Bell System, AT&T: over the last few years before it almost went bankrupt and was bought out by its old subsidiary, SouthWestern Bell, most executives were much more concerned with who gets the bigger office, than with taking care of the customer and combatting the competition. Then we failed for good.

Looking at the top of the country for leadership, where we had Congress/White House before? Now the Judiciary is claiming a lot more power by legislating from the bench and presiding over sessions that allocate power to the supposed leaders of this nation (eg, the legal fight over the Florida mess in 2000.) Who cares "what is "right?" They tell you what is right. Abortion? Gay marriages? Guantanamo? The judges have the answer, screw the elected representatives of the people, and, by extension, screw the people.

Over the past few years another player entered the fray: the media, greatly empowered by the Internet and related technologies. You are looking for the next leader of this country? THEY want to decide who it will be, and they will tell you. If you don't agree, then you must be a racist, backward-looking SOB who does not deserve to be taken seriously. Of course, the difference at this stage is that "truth" doesn't matter any more because nothing new needs to be created, just say what you need to say to grab a bigger piece of power.

There's yet another powerful player gradually emerging who, I believe, will eventually win for the long run: the multinational corporations. Why are we such good friends with Europe and the Far East? Because these days IBM makes a lot more money there than here. Multiply that by 1,000 and you get the picture. The good news, of course, is that very few of these guys like wars, they'd rather rip you off than rip you up. And that's a good thing, imo.

BUT, it's not their time yet, not before the China/India growth has manifested a little more clearly (how big/wealthy are they going to be?) and the energy situation is resolved, probably through the use of renewable energy sources available to everyone. For the moment, imo again, we're fighting the media wars: truth is for sale, they want to dictate who and when and how will run the counrty, and, we, the people, cannot agree on anything because we read/hear/see different versions of the "truth" 24/7.

Good points all, I agree. But, don't forget that we all, sooner or later, get the government we deserve. If we want better governance, we need to do better, each one of us, inside our own minds, at home, at work, at school, even here on ET, tolerating each other's point of view and adding to the discussion.

 

[arealpissedgoy]

Quote from RacerXXXXX:

There you go again, acting out because you are jealous of the USA. You must lead a pathetic life.

Stop sucking on kangaroo dicks and do something productive with your life.

you are an abortion candidate. A prime one at that.

You are so god damned fucking stupid, I wonder how you even manage to put your trousers on.

Or is it depends all the way?

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from cgroupman:

I don't like all the finger pointing and name calling here on ET. And I understand that the Dems are doing their best, as the Reps do, to come up with dirt on the other side.

By fiasco, I simply mean all this that you're seeing. Whether based in fact, as some charges are, or if mere mud slinging, either way it could very well serve as fiasco for her instead of her party overall. That's all I'm saying.

As far as real executive experience, well, sometimes good, sometimes not so good. We've had quite a few over the last few years on the negative side, after all was said and done. Ken Lay and all the rest, who cares if left or right, just thieves. But, if they weren't caught, then who knows, maybe they'd be a VP candidate.

The women I speak with are upset for a different reason. How can she leave her children, especially a new born with issues? I agree, not exactly women's lib types, but caring people nonetheless.

We'll see how it all pans out, and hopefully her family won't be negatively impacted by, yes, the mud slinging from the other side.



c

I heard a bunch of liberal women this morning on cable spouting this latest talking point. How could she leave her children? Can you even imagine what the reaction would have been if a conservative said that about a liberal female candidate? I thought the whole point of the women's movement was that they had just as much right as men to pursue careers. Suddenly, that only applies to women who are acceptable to the left. The whole thing reminds me of the Clarence Thomas lynching.

As for Biden, I don't see what there is to be so impressed about. Despite 35 years in the Senate, he has all the depth of a parking lot puddle. His accomplishments as a Senator are close to nonexistent. He is best known for the elaborate hand gestures that invariably accompany his long-winded questions in committee.