NYT: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office

Tsing Tao said:
Ah, you think they remove Trump and Pence at the same time in some special sorcery they cast in congress, is that it?
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I think the fantasy includes putting Hillary in once the special sorcery removes both trump and pence.

I guess the Framers put that part of the Constitution out on the dark web or something. Piezo is off on that trip too. Apparently the Framers put some provision out on the dark web saying that the Supreme Court of Saskatchewan is the final appeals court for matters related to the 2nd Amendment.

It's complicated I guess.
 
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Tsing Tao said:
Ah, you think they remove Trump and Pence at the same time in some special sorcery they cast in congress, is that it?
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I'm saying he's as much of a crazy as Trump, just more subdued in his insanity:

http://www.upworthy.com/20-things-mike-pence-did-while-you-werent-looking-and-why-it-matters

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-mike-pence-is-worse-than-donald-trump/

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/01/gods-plan-for-mike-pence/546569/

And while you're convinced Pence will necessarily be at the helm if Trump is removed, I wouldn't count on a Pence theocracy just yet if I were you. I won't pretend to know how it would play out, but in the off chance that Trump had a hand in subversive activities to gain the presidency, I don't see how his ever-willing yes-man would necessarily stand to benefit. Fruit from the poisonous tree, so to speak. Not exactly a suitable legal metaphor in this case, but you get the idea. I'm just suggesting that these are uncertain times.
 
Frederick Foresight said:
I'm saying he's as much of a crazy as Trump, just more subdued in his insanity:

http://www.upworthy.com/20-things-mike-pence-did-while-you-werent-looking-and-why-it-matters

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-mike-pence-is-worse-than-donald-trump/

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/01/gods-plan-for-mike-pence/546569/

And while you're convinced Pence will necessarily be at the helm if Trump is removed, I wouldn't count on a Pence theocracy just yet if I were you. I won't pretend to know how it would play out, but in the off chance that Trump had a hand in subversive activities to gain the presidency, I don't see how his ever-willing yes-man would necessarily stand to benefit. Fruit from the poisonous tree, so to speak. Not exactly a suitable legal metaphor in this case, but you get the idea. I'm just suggesting that these are uncertain times.
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There's no way to say this without sounding offensive, so I'll just apologize and say that you, Freddie, calling someone crazy or insane is actually a vote of confidence in my opinion based on how your political alignment leans.

Regarding whether Pence gets removed because of Trump, there's just no way. Even IF Trump is found to have done something that is worthy of impeachment and even IF they manage to impeach him, and even IF they manage - after impeaching him - to get him out by the time the next Presidential election takes place in 2020, they will have no time to begin the same joke of a circus on Pence by the time the term ends.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Stop with the repetitive babbling.

Horowitz has precisely the authority I outlined. No more and no less. That is why he is the IG and why Sessions had to appoint Huber- an actual DOJ prosecutor- to deal with or develop a response to probable or actual criminal matters.

As I have said twice, I see your gig. You are positioning yourself in advance to be able to say that no criminal matters or finding came out of the IG report as though that is conclusive or definitive. It is not. He does not have that authority. Sorry to interrupt your little plan but it is not going to work, not that you won't have a shot at it anyway. The IG is not a substitute for a real investigation- period. He has a lot of work ahead that he needs to do in regard to moving strzrok, ohr, page, and others out and that is fine but not a substitute for criminal investigation.

And yes, wrongdoing in regard to the dossier etc extends to other agencies and parties in government and out of government such as fusion, gps etc. - beyond the personnel/administration powers of the IG. That sounds conspiratorial to you, in the same way that wrongdoing by McCabe and FBI agents and corrupted FISA court proceedings and dem contributions to the chief investigator sounded conspiratorial to you- and probably still do. But your beliefs are not important or controlling.

You remember McCabe, right?
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You’re wrong about me having an angle on the IG report. I’m legitimately interested in the findings.

All I’m really saying is there is no deep state and massive conspiracy against Donald Trump or one for Hillary Clinton. And, you should be prepared for this to go in a way that you don’t expect.

As to the FISA said stuff, that really isn’t an internal review matter because it’s legal, not administrative.
 
Tsing Tao said:
There's no way to say this without sounding offensive, so I'll just apologize and say that you, Freddie, calling someone crazy or insane is actually a vote of confidence in my opinion based on how your political alignment leans.
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If it makes you feel any better, I think you're a quack, too. A big one. :)

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TreeFrogTrader said:
And if there is further investigation - as an example- of McCabe's role in approving the dossier, then the IG has no power to investigate him because he is no longer an employee, and even if he were still an employee, the IG has not authority to investigate the people he was interacting with outside of the department if legal process is required.

And in regard to my being for the IG report "going in a way that you don’t expect," would you mind articulating to me what I do and do not expect since you obviously believe you know better than I do?
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Horowitz may find many in the fbi, McCabe and Comey, the Republicans, included, actually overzealously pursued Clinton and some of their actions may have influenced the election.

So far when you look at Rosenstein’s letter recommending Comey be fired or the cause for terminating McCabe, that seems to be a reoccurring theme.

Like I said, that s May go in a way you don’t expect.
 
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