NRA Hijinks

[Tsing Tao]

Wyatt Earp/Charlton Heston fantasies?

Certainly better than Judy Garland fantasies. I have this horrid visual of you effeminately dancing through your apartment singing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow".

 

[Ricter]

If you remove the supply of guns and ammo, you'll see a significant behavior change on existing weapons as they become "coveted". You're not thinking realistically. Guns "thrown in rivers" if that's actually a frequent occurrence is because they can get another one on the cheap off the street. Remove that, and behavior changes.

As for the fewer households with guns, do you have a source for that?

As for the "every slaughter adds to..." how do you explain the violence in Chicago and the fact that gun laws are going the opposite way you are advocating (allowing concealed carry for the first in God knows how long, etc).

Thinking realistically admits to the problems, which I do.

I explain the violence in the inner cities by way of youth unemployment.

 

[Ricter]

Take your pick:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=us+household+gun+ownership+rate+by+year

(Not to be confused with number of guns owned.)

 

[Tsing Tao]

Thinking realistically admits to the problems, which I do.

If you were thinking realistically, you would understand why none of what you propose would ever work. Though you did qualify your statements with the "I am not advocating this", so that's something.

I explain the violence in the inner cities by way of youth unemployment.

The discussion is not about what drives violence in the inner city. It is about what to do about the millions of illegal guns in circulation during any type of gun ban.

Thus far, I've not heard of anyone come up with any solution to that (nor have I been able to think about one myself).

 

[Lucrum]

Certainly better than Judy Garland fantasies. I have this horrid visual of you effeminately dancing through your apartment singing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow".

As for guns "wearing out". There are still civil war era guns in perfect working order. A modern firearm properly maintained? I see no reason most of the better ones couldn't last several hundred years or more.

 

[Ricter]

The end state already exists in a few societies, so it is doable, if the achieving of it would be difficult.

Do something about youth unemployment, even mandatory military service, and much of this drug turf battling goes away.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Take your pick:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=us household gun ownership rate by year

(Not to be confused with number of guns owned.)

All of those links you put forth (with Google's help) seem to quote the same NY times article. Odd that Gallup shows differently:

Self-Reported Gun Ownership in U.S. Is Highest Since 1993

PRINCETON, NJ -- Forty-seven percent of American adults currently report that they have a gun in their home or elsewhere on their property. This is up from 41% a year ago and is the highest Gallup has recorded since 1993, albeit marginally above the 44% and 45% highs seen during that period.

(more after the link)

 

[Tsing Tao]

The end state already exists in a few societies, so it is doable, if the achieving of it would be difficult.

Do something about youth unemployment, even mandatory military service, and much of this drug turf battling goes away.

Great strategic vision. Could even be true. But the tactical execution part is severely lacking.

 

[Lucrum]

The end state already exists in a few societies, so it is doable, if the achieving of it would be difficult.

Do something about youth unemployment, even mandatory military service, and much of this drug turf battling goes away.

 

[Ricter]

All of those links you put forth (with Google's help) seem to quote the same NY times article. Odd that Gallup shows differently:

Self-Reported Gun Ownership in U.S. Is Highest Since 1993

PRINCETON, NJ -- Forty-seven percent of American adults currently report that they have a gun in their home or elsewhere on their property. This is up from 41% a year ago and is the highest Gallup has recorded since 1993, albeit marginally above the 44% and 45% highs seen during that period.

(more after the link)

Lol @ "with googles help". How did you find the Gallup link?