Not 97% but .3% of Climatologists agree.

Quote from futurecurrents:

I didn't know that science was owned and done by only democrats.

We'll be waiting for your well researched and informed response to the science presented.


LOL

You and ricter just agreed not fifteen minutes ago that republicans deny science. Now you state that you didn't know science is only 'owned and done' by democrats.

My well researched and informed response is that you'll say anything to justify the ends.

<b>Anything</b>
 
Quote from fhl:

To democrats, lying about the facts and calling it science,

is just like lying about the facts and calling it health care.

The ends justify the means. Whatever's necessary.

Only fools believe anything they say.
And this is what the dems think of reps, a mirror image.

Which is why it's so important that the right not compromise but dig in deeper. It's the only way to break through this difference of opinion.
 
Its odd that fc is taking what piezoe wrote and sort of act like it supports agw nutters. To me is was neutral. Piezoe was just presenting the view held by many real scientists.

So you take Piezoe's understanding and then project it out into the real world and you get this...

I believe Piezoe was highly supportive of this video by murray salby. This video should disabuse anyone watching of agw nutter ideas.

The last 10 to 20 minutes sums it up.

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Quote from jem:

Its odd that fc is taking what piezoe wrote and sort of act like it supports agw nutters. To me is was neutral. Piezoe was just presenting the view held by many real scientists.


Then you need to read it again. Because it is the essential element to understanding AGW. If you are having problem understanding, it would explain your obvious confusion/ignorance/confusion about AGW.

Get back to us when you understand what piezoe wrote.

Then we can move on.
 
Quote from fhl:

You and ricter just agreed not fifteen minutes ago that republicans deny science. Now you state that you didn't know science is only 'owned and done' by democrats.

My well researched and informed response is that you'll say anything to justify the ends.

<b>Anything</b>

So you admit that science is neither democratic nor republican. Good.

So then you admit that what piezoe wrote is fact right?
 
you really are some sort of reverse savant. you can take science and become ignorant.

piezoe explained the theory of how the greenhouse effect is created / works and he also explained how the the cooling effect seems to work.

nothing he wrote is really controversial... nor does it even come close to endorsing the idea that adding man made co2 to the current atmosphere would create significant warming (or measurable warming).

nothing he said can be used to support the idea that man made co2 is responsible for warming the last 50 years.


for that you need to understand that scientists have come up with models of how the atmosphere works. They have created ideas such as energy budges and energy balances.

you need to understand the last 10 minutes of the salby video I posted.

if I recall that was fully endorsed by piezoe and it destroys, completely destroys your deceitful arguments.


Quote from futurecurrents:

Then you need to read it again. Because it is the essential element to understanding AGW. If you are having problem understanding, it would explain your obvious confusion/ignorance/confusion about AGW.

Get back to us when you understand what piezoe wrote.

Then we can move on.
 
Quote from jem:

you really are some sort of reverse savant. you can take science and become ignorant.

piezoe explained the theory of how the greenhouse effect is created / works and he also explained how the the cooling effect seems to work.

nothing he wrote is really controversial... nor does it even come close to endorsing the idea that adding man made co2 to the current atmosphere would create significant warming (or measurable warming).

nothing he said can be used to support the idea that man made co2 is responsible for warming the last 50 years.


for that you need to understand that scientists have come up with models of how the atmosphere works. They have created ideas such as energy budges and energy balances.

you need to understand the last 10 minutes of the salby video I posted.

if I recall that was fully endorsed by piezoe and it destroys, completely destroys your deceitful arguments.


Sounds like futurecurrents needs to read pie hole's post, for the first time.
 
Let me say that I appreciate piezoe's recent in-detail and complete summaries on this tread. Very direct and without the usual ranting that we see from either side of the 'global warming' debate.
 
So everyone is clear that CO2 absorbs heat (emitted from the earth for example) and then re-radiates it in all directions. This is an indisputable fact.

Right?

fhl? Are you able to admit any scientific fact at all to do with AGW?
 
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