Neanderthals vs. "Science"
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And lets compare the rates of Covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths in Australia with the U.S. Noting that Australia has had many less days of lockdown than the U.S. and they have pretty much been living freely throughout the worldwide Covid crisis without restrictions, concerts occurring, dining open, etc.
compare it if you want. That isn't the point of the tweet. the point of the tweet is that all of those lockdowns and extreme actions aren't stopping their curve. That's the science. OR rather, the sCIEnCE
Australia has almost the same population as Texas.
Texas 4.39 million cases 74,948 deaths
Australia 174,000 cases 1,800 deaths
Straight facts.
Seems Australia doing better relatively than Texas
I am sure 73,000 people in Texas would agree.
Texas 4.39 million cases 74,948 deaths
Australia 174,000 cases 1,800 deaths
Straight facts.
Seems Australia doing better relatively than Texas
I am sure 73,000 people in Texas would agree.
Come on, dude. You're passing judgment purely on COVID stats.
It's not a simple equation.
What about comparing economic output? Livelihood? Businesses? Freedoms? School children? Mental illness?
This is like the 5th time I've had to point this out. If all we needed to do was judge our results on the amount of people who died from COVID, this would be easy. Lock everyone in their own personal closet and never let them out. Simple. No deaths!
But there's so much more to consider, and you have to consider it.
Are you trying to claim that the U.S. performed better economically than Australia during the pandemic. Yep, this assertion is laughable.
https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/international-economic-comparisons-after-year-pandemic
Is Texas in that article somewhere? Or on that chart? Because that was the conversation.
GDP is one additional variable to consider. Yes, that is what I said.
You posted cases...
I posted cases....
But I have to consider more and suddenly it is not simple?
The graph was posted to claim lockdowns were not effective in Australia. I just simply showed that cases were extremely low even with the spiking as Delta variant made its way in. A chart with a spike is meaningless without context as you pointed out.
I gave context using Texas since they are close in population and perhaps opposite ends in measures taken to some extent.
LOCKDOWNS worked for Australia given their environment and geography. I dont see any facts to say otherwise for Australia.
I posted cases in response to lockdowns and mandates in Australia. I didn't say anything about Texas or comparison between Texas (or anywhere else) to Australia. It was saying "if lockdowns work so well, why do cases spike so much"?
That's it.
Then you took us on this comparison discussion.
The spike came from teh new variant. The initial lockdowns kept the country safe there for quite a while and restrictions had been lifted over the past few months. You are looking at the spike as though it was a major surge but you have to look at the left side of the graph and that even with the spike the numbers are extremely low.
I showed you Texas which is a state with about the same population of Australia with little to no restrictions to show you how many cases and deaths a truly non restricted place can suffer compared to Australia. So to see a bump in the chart and claim lockdowns don't work is simply looking at the shape and making a poor generalization.
To quote someone smart:
"Come on, dude. You're passing judgment purely on COVID stats.
It's not a simple equation."