meditation as a way to calm trading angsts

[DT-waw]

Quote from vanilla2:


As to levitation, my guess would be that demonstrations, contests and accepting money for it would be in utter violation of the principles that practitioners of this level hold most fervently. Or maybe nobody can do it. Either way, I don't think anyone who could do this would be likely to prove it to the world for any sum.

1) Why not show it to the public? Please explain...
2) OK without $ prize.

 

[amg]

from Girlpower: Hi Ana, I have tried meditating for the first time this evening, and it is remarkable how relaxed and focused I am now. Thank you for your guidance at just the right time. Natalie

Good for you, Natalie, for taking the steps there! Ana Maria

 

[Lohnsklave]

Hi, I just subscribed to this forum, so my post comes a little bit late...

I learned self hypnosis from a psychiatrist. He told me: "Self hypnosis has nothing to do with religion. You don't have to believe anything. You just expierience the weight and warmth of your body, your breath etc." (I'm an atheist and I think he is one, too)

And it works:
It calmes the vegetative nerval system (correct expression?), the concentration on the body clears the mind from all the thoughts that are rushing in and afterwards I'm calm with a clear mind in some kind of trance (at least I call it like that).

Quote from amg:



PS -- hypnosis is in no way a form of meditation.

I haven't meditated yet but is it really that different? Can you tell where you see the difference?

 

[murray t turtle]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

This line is a Marketsurfer associate quote ''squiggley lines & numbers''; it concerns tek analysis I meditate on that .



Others will recognize that those who blind, and bind themselves wholeheartedly to a goal are not stopped by the end of breath in this one life.

I continue to be amazed at those who claim "spirituality" beyond the confines of organized western religion are yet shackled with such a narrow and temporal focus to draw their conclusions from.
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Interesting a lady on CNBC noted today the reason the media keeps bringing up ''bubble'' is pressure from television viewers.
Sounds like the blame game.

At very best ''bubble'' is a HIGHLY misleading [snake oil] word ; perhaps it shows just how many in the media scorn the free enterprise system & most any thing worthwhile. Actually the squiggley lines and numbers of the last 30 years [or whenever ] as a stock patterns resemble mountain ranges.

Anna Marie is right about about meditation being different from visualization.Like to meditate [think & think] on mountain patterns;a color picture is worth a 1000 words.

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My read is Ed Seykota liked green tea more than green tree frogs.
Solomon liked gold, networks and wisdom + cedar trees.


Enjoy meditating [thinking & thinking] what Ed Seykota and Solomon liked. As much as I value those gentlemen ;prefer emeralds to jade and cedar trees. Think I will meditate on wisdom more than jade or cedar trees.

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from murray t turtle:

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

This line is a Marketsurfer associate quote ''squiggley lines & numbers''; it concerns tek analysis I meditate on that.






thank you, murray. i shall be certain to let my 'associate' know that he has a fan.

best,

surfer

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from amg:

Hi Dave-- Wow, what a great weekend, to also hear from you. Speaking of paying for what they already know, Ana Maria


ps-- Are you ever going to spin the wheel on the SPX?

LOL, amg. i have expanded my base from the nasdaq to the djia. the YM is an excellent vehicle. i have not yet attempted to delve into the SP. why ?? when ??--- i am not 100% sure. have a great week !

surfer

 

[amg]

from Lohnsklave: I haven't meditated yet but is it really that different? Can you tell where you see the difference?

Hi there-- This question is perhaps worthy of more depth, but a simple (short) reply would be that hypnosis is a shunt-- it bridges over what ever beneath what the hypnosis is intended to fix.

Meditation based on the buddhist tradition practices awareness of the Observation-Perception-Sensation-Reaction chain. What *that* means is a bit more difficult for me to explain, but simply put, it "trains" one to see that the present moment is the only real moment and thus other behaviors are exposed as being reactions to past or future ideas/events. Through awareness, "bad" habits are exposed as not having any relevance to the present and will fall away, quickly or slowly depending on the meditator.

Hynosis doesn't use that awareness. It instead shunts the reaction itself, never really dealing with the chain that it is a part of. Sort of like chewing gum instead of smoking. Gum is certainly less harmful, but the need to occupy space/time with "useless" activity isn't at all addressed.

I'm no doctor or wordsmith in this arena, but that's the best I can do right now. best, Ana Maria

PS-- meditaiton isn't religious either

 

[Lohnsklave]

Thanks, Ana Maria, I think I get the picture: In self hypnosis one represses all other thoughts (thoughts in the most common sense: feelings, ideas...) by concentrating on the body. This helps getting out of brooding, fear or excitement but doesn't deal with needs that are repressed. Those which use to show up during trading and ruin the discipline.

Sounds like meditation is the solution, but...

Quote from amg:

Stirring up muck that has lain dormant is guaranteed to cause pain and wreck havoc.

... that's what I'm afraid of. I know there is a lot of muck.

 

[bobcathy1]

It is important to trade in a relaxed state. I always take some time to calm down each morning before I start.
We took a month's vacation to relax and get our focus back. No computers, no time table and no CNBC.
All refreshed and ready again.

 

[Magickian]

Altough meditation is better than no meditation at all, for most people its just another form of escapism such as: binge drinking, drug addiction, watching TV for hours, ect.
Real meditation requires not effort but effortless grace. So that everything becomes a meditation: a conversation, a drive, a meal, trading, ect. Its not something you can plan or force, it emerges when your ready.