Quote from darkhorse:
That's it?
YES AND NO.
If everything is "right, wrong, both, and every other possibility," why bother reading contemporary philosophy? Why not just read the label on a can of chili instead?
BECAUSE I'VE DECIDED TO.
Do you deny that if nothing awaits us, a life of tortored pain and a life of blissful serenity are equal and indistinguishable at their close,
THEY ARE AND AREN'T.
and that it doesn't really matter what happens to you, or your children, or your children's children, because all await the same oblivion in which none of their joy, none of their pain, ever mattered at all?
EVERYTHING MATTERS AND DOESN'T MATTER. IT DEPENDS ON ONES DECISIONS OR OPINIONS. ONE DAY ONE WILL CARE ANOTHER DAY ONE WILL NOT, WHIMSICAL AND ARBITRARY.
Do you deny that if only blackness awaits you, all sense of purpose, all truth, beauty, love and actions of posterity become meaningless and pointless at the very moment you die, and were thus meaningless and pointless the whole time you were alive?
YES AND NO. TONIGHT I'LL SAY YES BECAUSE ARGIUGN IS FUN.
Do you deny that a consistent atheist must thus accept that personal fulfillment in the here and now can be the only logical standard for someone who believes in no ultimate purpose and no absolute truth?
I'M AGNOSTIC. I WAS AN ATHEIST, A NIHILIST, AND A CHRISTIAN. I NEVER TOUGHT THAT WAY. I'VE HEARD THAT BUDHISTS ARE INTO THE NOW.
Do you deny that it is foolishness to construct a standard for yourself out of whole cloth, as Nietsche instructs, and then to criticize someone else who is "spiritual" for doing the same thing?
YES AND NO. NO WHEN I DECIDED TO PLAY THE LOGIC GAME.
Do you deny that your hypocrisy is actually greater than that of the man who believes in absolute truth and eternal purpose, because at least that man is acting in accords with his true beliefs, whereas you are actively denying yours (in pretending that you have purpose when you know you don't)?
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACURATELY JUDGE WHO IS MORE HYPOCRITICAL. I'M PROBABLY MORE HYPOCRITICAL. I'M HYPOCRITICAL OF MY HYPOCRACY. I ADMIT MY HYPOCRISY, DO YOU? I HATE HUMANS YET I'M ONE. I'M IN REBELION OF MANY FACETS MY EXISTENCE, "AGAINST NATURE."
When you look at the logical conclusion of nothingness- immediate fulfillment the only end and the ultimate justification of all means- it proffers an uncanny similarity to the unthinking, unrestrained animal, don't you think?
MY IDEA OF THE CONCLUSION OF NOTHINGNESS IS NOTHING MATTERS. IF ONE ACTS WITHOUT PLANNING AND WITHOUT THE IDEAS OF PURPOSE OR MEANING THEN ONE IS ACTING LIKE A NIHILIST.
ANIMALS HAVE INTUITIVE AND DECIDED PURPOSES. SO A NIHILIST WOULDN'T BE ANIMALISTIC BECAUSE ANIMALS HAVE PURPOSES AND AREN'T INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO REALIZE THE POINTLESSNESS OR NOTHINGNESS OF THEIR ACTIONS. ONLY PEOPLE ARE CAPABLE OF REALIZING AND DECIDING
THAT EVERYTHING MATTERS OR DOESN'T MATTER. SOME PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN CAPABLE OF THIS BASIC REALIZATION.
The beast in the forest who kills and ruts and takes, thinking only of the moment, stripped of all the false considerations of things like truth, beauty and love?
I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT THAT BEAST ISN'T HAVING THOUGHTS FOREIGN TO MAN. SOME ANIMALS SEE COLORS THAT HUMANS CANNOT. I DO UNDERSTAND THE POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE, AND I DISAGREE.
Let the exotic philosophers be. Speak now, and strike down the God idiot in your own words.
MY OWN HATRED OF GOD IDIOTS HAS MANY SIMILARITIES TO THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE GOD IDIOTS.
INSTEAD OF HEAVEN I'VE TRANSCENDANCE THROUGH INTELLIGENCE. INSTEAD OF PRAYER I'VE SELF LOVE. ONLY WHEN WE PLAY THE GAME OF LOGIC WILL I SEEM (HENCE THE WORD SEEM BECAUSE THERE IS NO ULTIMATE TRUTH) SUPERIOR TO A GOD IDIOT. MY HATRED OF GOD IDIOTS ISN'TONLY DUE TO THE LOGIC BUT ALSO BECUASE OF MY EXTREME AVERSION OF THE AESTHETICS OF SPIRITUALITY. I FIND SPIRITUALISM TO BE SO BANAL THAT I'M UTTERLY OPPOSED TO IT AS AN ARTIST, AND AS A PERSON CAPABLE OF REASONING. MY AESTHETIC OPINION, MY AESTHETIC REASONING LEADS ME TO INFER THAT AESTHETICALLY I'M RIGHT AND GOD IDIOTS ARE WRONG. AESTHETICALLY AND LOGICALLY I'M ANNOYED BY GOD IDIOTS. I HOPE THIS MAKES SENSE. I'VE NOT THE PATIENCE TO WRITE A LINEAR ESSAY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW I THINK, GO READ MY -POEM- THREAD; FIND IT ONE CHITCHAT PAGE TWO OR THREE.
