Materialists

[rowenwood]

Quote from LongShot:

you responding for Turok lol? how many personalities have you? apparently it didn't work cause i just busted you

I was just joking buddy. You don't actually believe that I'm turok do you?

 

[TradeOff]

Quote from rowenwood:

It took you long enough to figure it out. So now you know that I don't hate you. My plan was to befriend you as rowenwood and criticize you as axeman. It worked didn't it?

I don't care anymore because I'm leaving in a few days. Will you miss me?

You're not leaving... no one can ever leave.

 

[rowenwood]

Quote from TradeOff:

You're not leaving... no one can ever leave.

Will you miss me?

 

[TradeOff]

Quote from rowenwood:

Will you miss me?

Effin-A.

But, why do you think you're leaving?

Can you not take life anymore? (Suicide)

Or, is it just the BS on this forum? (Going to another stupid forum)

 

[LongShot]

Quote from rowenwood:

I was just joking buddy. You don't actually believe that I'm turok do you?

no i think your GEKKO.

 

[Gordon Gekko]

Quote from LongShot:

no i think your GEKKO.

rowenwood and i have some of the same beliefs, but i am not him.

 

[LongShot]

Quote from Gordon Gekko:

rowenwood and i have some of the same beliefs, but i am not him.

then he's axe I KNOW DAM WELL HE"S SOMEONE !!

 

[axeman]

I am not rowen. And rowen is definitely not GG.
I am not Turok either. That should be obvious as well.


peace

axeman

 

[axeman]

Are you asserting that nothing can have value simply
because it can cease to exist in the future?

If all the joy/pain you feel in life "doesnt matter" simply because
we die, then may I come over there and torture you
for months while I yell:

"But dark! Its OK... because it DOESNT MATTER"

Not making sense.


peace

axeman

Quote from darkhorse:

Do you deny that if nothing awaits us, a life of tortored pain and a life of blissful serenity are equal and indistinguishable at their close, and that it doesn't really matter what happens to you, or your children, or your children's children, because all await the same oblivion in which none of their joy, none of their pain, ever mattered at all? [/b]

 

[damir00]

Quote from Turok:

You can say that the REAL reasons are always hidden..

i did not say that.

Why is atheism NOT often picked as the "veil"?

for the simple reason atheism does not describe a belief held, it describes a belief NOT held. you too are making the apples to oranges comparison. the correct comparision is between results from postive statements of belief, not a positive statement on one side and a negative statement on the other. it isn't between atheism and theism, it's between, eg, existentialism and theism. or marxism and theism. or etc etc etc.

I present that theism is a GREAT tool for control and atheism is a LOUSY tool for control.

of course. atheism isn't a tool because it is not a belief system - it does not describe what you DO believe, it only describes one specific thing you DO NOT believe in. it is an attribute of belief systems, not a belief system itself.

all belief systems - certainly including theist ones - are useful as meanst of control. materialism, communism, nihilism - systems of beliefs generally associated with atheists - are also great systems of control.

before you can proceed anywhere with your argument, you need to back up and fix your base problem - the conflating of an element of disparate belief systems with belief systems themselves.