many religious meat eaters don't care about killing animals

Quote from Gordon Gekko:

BTW, here's another great idea i have. GENETICALLY MODIFIED GRASS SEED. i hate mowing the lawn. in the future, grass seed will be modified so that the grass only grows to a certain height. there will be different types and you'll be able to pick how high you want your grass to grow.

uhh....gordy, it's out there already...i've seen it on people's lawns...it's a bit darker green than your usual grass...although i'm sure there's alotta diff kinds...
 
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Yes, appreciate life so much that you have no qualms whatsoever about ending it. Read: abortion.
(And, usually, turn an 'understanding' blind eye to its evil twin, infanticide.)


Noticed how nobody touched this quote with a ten foot pole....
 
A question for the enviro-left minority: If the global temperature has no noticeable rise why are the ice caps melting at the poles?
 
Quote from ElCubano:so its ok...to talk smack about how people kill animals and how bad it is to eat meat because it kills animals yet drive an SUV that pollutes our air and use products that pollute our rivers...I was refering to the hypocrites out there....

If you read some of my posts you would see that I have said I am as much to blame as the other.......I apologize if it didnt make sense to you and believe me I wont take it as an insult...

http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html

read that article stu.... killing animals for eating or because they were in the way of a vegeterians crop seems like the same to me.....
Whether it's a veggie or Dracula driving a SUV is a DIFFERENT argument. Because SUV's pollute doesn't mean it's ok for meat production to pollute and vice versa does it?.

It's a separate argument as to whether it is desirable to kill animals to eat and ...

especially if it is right to unnaturally and unnecessarily encourage the mass production of animal meat for over consumption at the same time causing widespread pollution and...

more especially still that its ok to ANY extent because a God says it's ok and it isn't ok at the same time.

I get your point about hypocrites and some animals being killed as a consequence of producing food for veggies, but are you seriously suggesting that veggies could or would intentionally or inadvertently create the same results as the list supplied by -EntropyTrader on page one??

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Stu it is stewardship not gluttony and if the way we process meat is so disgusting perhaps we will be held accountable. But since there is not a lot of hunting going on in Carlsbad California and I do have kids to feed I have to make choices. Hopefully you will do your best and I will do mine. It seems reasonable that sustainable yield would be the way to

P.S. what would be the lesser evil hunting animals for food or eating the ones that were created for food.
I don't disagree with you in essence, but if the processing of meat becomes -or already is - so disgusting, who will you become accountable to? Your kids...? if it should turn out that the place got badly messed up by greedy thick head farmers who want to pump livestock so full of anti-biotics, just to speed up growth and $$$'s, that your kids' health is compromised by superbug resistence, will this accountability help then ??

Good stewardship yes, accountability yes, before it gets bad, not inhumane couldn't give a damn cause jesus said it was ok and the gov will bail me out if I mess up anyway crap, and the next generations of kids are made to pick up the tab in Carlsbad and most other places too.
 
Dude I think you are overreacting to the religion aspect of this argument. Meat eaters are saying its a choice and leave me alone and because veg heads tend to camp with liberals who lately have no qualms about taking away liberties in pursuit of the greater good. We ask who do you think your are to claim the higher ground?

Our fallback position is that our society is based on judeo christian values so who are you to change them. Consequently since the book spawning these values (if you do not believe in the source) says eat meat. We say hey we eat meat we always ate meat who are you to rip us for it and if you want to claim the moral ground you will have to go though Jesus.

Now your other points about the meat do give me pause and I wish it were different.
 
Quote from stu:

Whether it's a veggie or Dracula driving a SUV is a DIFFERENT argument. Because SUV's pollute doesn't mean it's ok for meat production to pollute and vice versa does it?.

It's a separate argument as to whether it is desirable to kill animals to eat and ...

especially if it is right to unnaturally and unnecessarily encourage the mass production of animal meat for over consumption at the same time causing widespread pollution and...


oy boy.... I lost you somewhere...sorry...peace
 
i hear you, it's tough. i try, hard, but i cannot say i am without blame as well.

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unfortunatetly this is our society.... OVERCONSUMPTION at the cost of our enviroment....keeps our economy growing....I agree with you damir, I guess we should be walking to work....I am one to blame.....
 
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Noticed how nobody touched this quote with a ten foot pole....

Yeah If I was a liberal preaching about death to animals so we can eat our meat, I wouldn't want to touch the subject of abortion either. I mean what compares to sticking a f*cking needle into a woman's body and into the brain of an unborn but living child while we the doctor sucks its brains out while the child is grasping for life. Yeah this kind of cruelty pales in comparison to what we do to cows. Of course only a liberal will find the joy in the killing of tens of millions of unborn children. Can someone say hypocrite?
 
OH YEAH AND THE POINT ABOUT SUVS REALLY PISSES ME OFF. Bill Maher and others of that pompous know it ALL ilk who apparently do not have familes support liberal interventionist laws like madatory child seats for what up to 5 years olds or more whom we cant leave in the car so we have to have strollers.

Have you non child rearing idiots every tried to fit child seats into a honda. What a bunch of assholes. You need a big fricken car to comply with the law. Big cars get poor mileage. SO YOU DO NOT LIKE MY SUV THEN NEXT TIME I WILL BUY A CADILLAC YOU MINDLESS INTERVENTIONIST DOPES. This was really aimed at all the dopes who echoed this mantra in the media and not a particular person on this thread.
 
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