Making JH' SCT and all his material alive

[Sprout]

While searching for Aa-EE in some of Jacks charts I ran across this.
I post it merely as an example of "why", IMO, Jacks charts are not definitive.

I have highlighted the section containing an Aa-EE...
Based on the colored "rays", the volume sequence following the annotated T1 is...
P2-P1-P2-T2P-Aa

Someone wasn't following the rules, and was not corrected.

Yes, this is an example of Aa HVBO with a T2P in the sequence.

The other two examples are in charts:

10-31-2013 5-35-31 pm
10-02-2013 1-27-27 pm

If the P1 was lat1 I would have ID'd it as Af HVBO.

If you look in post #122 of MSoO, he describes the context of "four bar" and puts on the table that sometimes T2P is prevented from occurring yet the context is still established. This is why I would go with Aa HVBO. Even if we had mis ID'd it, the OB that comes along would have triggered Ab LVBO and we would still have made the turn. The system is resilient. It has failsafes built in.

Working with the OOE of OEE's and being clear about each OOE, how they begin, progress and end is supportive of the effort. For me the presence of T2P initiates the secondary band if the trend is continuing. This is where the retro process as a background mental process assists in the spontaneous cascading of ID's in realtime. One is looking at the forming bar in it's context, the possibilities that are on the table and whether the containers built are giving a 'tell' of an ftt. PRV of the bar7 and an accelerated tape showing the ftt on the FF would have been included in MADA.

Thanks for bringing up the example and perspective, may we all continuing in our process of iterative refinement.

 

[tiddlywinks]

Cool. I'll use the next time I WANT a T2P but one doesn't exist. Point 3 goes...... HERE!!
Better... T2P is another failsafe. But you can't use it on "any bar", only after a P2.

This is stuff that made Jack non-credible. Pragmatically speaking.

Carry On.

“Just because my path is different doesn’t mean I’m lost.” Anonymous

 

[Sprout]

Cool. I'll use the next time I WANT a T2P but one doesn't exist. Point 3 goes...... HERE!!
Better... T2P is another failsafe. But you can't use it on "any bar", only after a P2.

This is stuff that made Jack non-credible. Pragmatically speaking.

Carry On.

“Just because my path is different doesn’t mean I’m lost.” Anonymous

If you look at the chart bar5 even though it’s a P2 it forms pt3 of the parallelogram.

When no lateral is present T2P normally establishes this geometric point of the parallelogram. In this particular case, the lateral is what prevents T2P from being pt3 of the container and P2 of volume is taking its place.

 

[Simples]

Different OPs good for differentiation!

 

[WchPl]

It has never been so pleasurable to go deep into comprehension, refinement, dissection and rereadings.

Currently clearing many things, and I want you all 3 to know that your recent posts are stimulating a lot my DDs and my will to work harder. Finally, I'm finding back some great energy.
So, thank you very much guys.

Gonna post quite soon.

 

[tiddlywinks]

When no lateral is present T2P normally establishes this geometric point of the parallelogram. In this particular case, the lateral is what prevents T2P from being pt3 of the container and P2 of volume is taking its place.

There is a lot of fitting data to support an outcome versus a data-derived outcome going on. The binary foundation of RDBMS becomes questionable.

In the example cited, an A-band EE (Aa) was applied to the first-bar of a lateral
A) With no T2P present and
B) BEFORE it was known to be a lateral

Although T2P and Lateral both share being non-dom DV, the OOE, the order in which the components were identified to arrive at the outcome was subjective guessing rather than binary.

T2P is optional or it is not. The binary expressions for optional OR not optional don't seem to exist. T2P is "pragmatic" per Jack... a practical consequence, apply as needed.

T2P Ghosting, I invented the name.

 

[WchPl]

Building this is helping me.
There's just one thing I notice for now, that I need to study and think and read about, is the placement of C-band, T1, P2 of slower fractal, and T2F vs T2P placement

 

[Sprout]

Building this is helping me.
There's just one thing I notice for now, that I need to study and think and read about, is the placement of C-band, T1, P2 of slower fractal, and T2F vs T2P placement

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Expand your range of bars to include at least one more Set C trend. (b2b2r2b, r2r2b2r). You can do this by making 6 volume elements per trend. You are still quite attached to the b2b2r2b, r2r2b2r notation.

The black/red T2F placement is inaccurate. Better to use P3P where you are using T2F. T2F is a zooming in of a faster fractal. Understand why this is so.

The 2 in B2B and R2R lines up with the XO of the RTL. Place those above the volume bars a bit so that the space is clutter free for the placement of volume elements.

The P2 and T2P in blue do not exist on the 5m. Maybe in another timeframe - depends on the time slicing and whether those occur intrabar on the slower timeframe.

 

[Sprout]

There is a lot of fitting data to support an outcome versus a data-derived outcome going on. The binary foundation of RDBMS becomes questionable.

In the example cited, an A-band EE (Aa) was applied to the first-bar of a lateral
A) With no T2P present and
B) BEFORE it was known to be a lateral

Although T2P and Lateral both share being non-dom DV, the OOE, the order in which the components were identified to arrive at the outcome was subjective guessing rather than binary.

T2P is optional or it is not. The binary expressions for optional OR not optional don't seem to exist. T2P is "pragmatic" per Jack... a practical consequence, apply as needed.

T2P Ghosting, I invented the name.

T2P is the initiation of the B-band. Review all the A-band definitions. You'll find that they are haunted. The method is precise. Your understanding and application is not. That's where the binary comes into play.

 

[tiddlywinks]

T2P is the initiation of the B-band. Review all the A-band definitions. You'll find that they are haunted. The method is precise. Your understanding and application is not. That's where the binary comes into play.

Q) If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

A) It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.


Appearance of A-Band "pragmatically" creates B-Band. THAT is binary, and precise.
If adjacent data "fits" or not is neither binary nor precise if the data is fitted regardless. T2P Ghosting.

Carry on.