Left skew , being on the wrong side of IQ

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And YOU show the benefits of the training and education with your post of flatworms. (IF) flatworms apply to the humans, then YOU prove the benefits of the training and education of ALL people. Is not determined and fixed intelligence.
Why are YOU afraid to let some people learn?

Are you kidding me? you must not be american if you do not understand the enormous resources put into educating the uneducatable.

Your position is irrational and unsupported reality, that IQ scores are something completely mallable by nurture, that anyone can be a brain surgeon with enough attention and support for instance. You think just anyone can trade with enough education? Let me get you some students.

You also keep assuming that you have precisely defined something called intelligence and then build arguments around it. You have not.
 
Quote from trendlover:

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Is really not my question. I am saying if YOU think because some flatworms is trained and educated to respond how to navigate the maze, then the flatworm with (education and the training to navigate the maze) is cut to parts and they this parts if feed to other flatworms, then the new flatworms are born with intelligence of how to navigate. This PROVE education and training is beneficial to ALL humans. Is really OPPOSITE of Mav88 opinion that education and money to educate people can not help people. But really this flatworm YOU talk about is cannabolism. So I really do not know why you talk about flatworms.

I never said education is not beneficial, never.

I can train all my life, I will never beat Usain Bolt in the 100m. We are bio-chemical machines with a built in upside, same goes for intelligence.
 
Quote from trendlover:

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And YOU show the benefits of the training and education with your post of flatworms. (IF) flatworms apply to the humans, then YOU prove the benefits of the training and education of ALL people. Is not determined and fixed intelligence.
Why are YOU afraid to let some people learn?

How to explain this so that everyone will understand…

Genetic IQ is like the processing speed of your CPU… It doesn’t deal with socially learned things.

Now that might sound stupid to you but let’s look at two examples:

One is the game of chess…

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/daily-puzzles/912012---abstract-mating-idea

The solution to today’s puzzle (9/1/2012) is 1. Qxf6, exf6 2. Ne8, Ng4 3. fxg4, Bxe4 4. Nxf6#

I usually solve these puzzles in less than 2 minutes due to the fact that they’re all pretty easy and usually involve a queen sacrifice!:D Anyone can learn the rules of chess. Once you know how to move the pieces it’s all up to your processing power and imagination. Despite being a very cheap game to play Africans who make up a significant part of the world’s population are not very good at the game.

The other is mathematics…

Let us say that a chess genius is tested in math against a lower IQ individual. They’re both presented with a dA/dt (change in area over time) problem involving the relationship between the area of a triangle and its angle.

Now they both know that A=1/2absin(theta) in this case but there is a difference… Our dumb person has learned the derivatives of trigonometric functions while our chess genius does not know that d/dxsin(theta)=cos(theta)…! Our dumb person will benefit from his learned social knowledge and score higher! However, the answer is deceiving… Once our chess genius applies himself to the study of math he will score much better than the dumb person on all future tests.

So if massive amounts of educational resources are invested in lower IQ people then they too can learn! However, that's unfair to the rest of us who had to learn the hard way without any support. It's also unfair that we've been targeted for "cultural elimination" because being white and smart is inconvenient to America's future!
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:



You still cling to an idea that has been crushed. Here is another.

Here is an entire book, from yet another scholar.:D

http://www.questia.com/library/1810902/the-iq-mythology-class-race-gender-and-inequality

There is an entire library of stuff. I can post a different paper from a different scholar each time you open your racist yap.:cool:

I'm still waiting for you provide 1 tiny little argument of where I'm wrong about the existence of the black/white IQ gap?

Are you going to keep pretending you have arguments against said evidence without even bothering to tell us what those points/arguments are.

sounds like this

obama: I have a plan to fix the economy.

reporter: How do you plan to fix the economy?

obama: By following my plan.
reporter: What are the solutions of your plan?

obama : I've identified 5 points in my plan.

reporter : Specifically what actions do your plans entail.

obama : My plans are to specifically fix the economy.

reporter : How?
obama : By following my plan.

reporter : What are your solutions in general then?

obama ( :(exasperated) If you don't wan't to have an honest discussion why are you bothering me with questions I've already answered.
 
Quote from Brass:

Have a functioning adult click on the link for you and then have them explain the content. Slowly.

http://www.hirhome.com/rr/rrcontents.htm

Then have your remaining functioning organs donated to those who really need it, and your brain carefully disposed into a compost bin.

I read Brass' 'functioning adult' link. He presented nothing but non-empirical assertions and a host of logical absurdities.

I could really tear that one a new asshole, but what do others think of Brass' 'functioning adult?


First this guy is a 9/11 inside job guy, and a fringe social propagandist (scientist is not a proper description of these types)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Gil-White

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXJungM7bb8

and surprisingly a very pro-isreal conspiracy type (surprising that Brass would think this type is reputable)

It is amusing that people like Brass and RCG present this crap as some sort of refutation and declare that the argument is 'destroyed'. Such is the level of apologetics that the ET left thinks passes for 'proof' of their views, I guess we all kind of knew that though, that the religious left only needs a wacko or two preaching their truth.
 
From RCG: You still cling to an idea that has been crushed. Here is another.

Here is an entire book, from yet another scholar.

http://www.questia.com/library/1810...-and-inequality

There is an entire library of stuff. I can post a different paper from a different scholar each time you open your racist yap.

Nothing in that link, read it.

Entire library? Oh Right, that's why RCG can reel off all those refutations, and not to mention argumentum ad populum
 
Quote from CoolTraderDude:

How to explain this so that everyone will understand…

Genetic IQ is like the processing speed of your CPU… It doesn’t deal with socially learned things.

Now that might sound stupid to you but let’s look at two examples:

One is the game of chess…
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Hmm? And in your "modern" world of IQ superior people, they can not remember the telephone numbers of their friends and family in their mind. They only push the button.
 
Quote from Mav88:

I read Brass' 'functioning adult' link. He presented nothing but non-empirical assertions and a host of logical absurdities.

I could really tear that one a new asshole, but what do others think of Brass' 'functioning adult?


First this guy is a 9/11 inside job guy, and a fringe social propagandist (scientist is not a proper description of these types)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Gil-White

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXJungM7bb8

and surprisingly a very pro-isreal conspiracy type (surprising that Brass would think this type is reputable)

It is amusing that people like Brass and RCG present this crap as some sort of refutation and declare that the argument is 'destroyed'. Such is the level of apologetics that the ET left thinks passes for 'proof' of their views, I guess we all kind of knew that though, that the religious left only needs a wacko or two preaching their truth.

Thanks for your due diligence Mav.
 
Quote from Mav88:

Nothing in that link, read it.

Entire library? Oh Right, that's why RCG can reel off all those refutations, and not to mention argumentum ad populum
aww crap now you made me look something up.
I was close, I thought it had to do with "Goebbels maxim".
 
Quote from CoolTraderDude:

How to explain this so that everyone will understand…

Genetic IQ is like the processing speed of your CPU… It doesn’t deal with socially learned things.

Now that might sound stupid to you but let’s look at two examples:

One is the game of chess…

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/daily-puzzles/912012---abstract-mating-idea

The solution to today’s puzzle (9/1/2012) is 1. Qxf6, exf6 2. Ne8, Ng4 3. fxg4, Bxe4 4. Nxf6#

I usually solve these puzzles in less than 2 minutes due to the fact that they’re all pretty easy and usually involve a queen sacrifice!:D Anyone can learn the rules of chess. Once you know how to move the pieces it’s all up to your processing power and imagination.
(unrelated to the IQ discussion)
I'm not a chess player and correct me if I'm wrong in my perception.

You seem to give the impression that the expert player analyses all moves or as many as possible in the allotted time.

This is definitely wrong, that specifically is the mental strategy of beginners.
 
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