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[TreeFrogTrader]

This is obviously different in America. We scaled up for multiple vaccines to be produced with some vaccines would fail or have safety problems.

Go ahead and say it. "THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP."

There ya go. You just needed a little help.

Even the Canadians will be taking Trump vaccines now.

Some right here on the forum. Maybe we can livestream it.

 

[Cuddles]

The Europeans have been bungling their vaccine program from the very beginning. Their biggest mistake was they put most of their eggs in one basket and chose to rely heavily on the AZ shot. Big mistake. Now they don’t have too many options because they didn’t create the manufacturing needed for large scale production of the other vaccines.

This is obviously different in America. We scaled up for multiple vaccines to be produced with some vaccines would fail or have safety problems.

Now this is not saying the AZ shot is ineffective or has a safety profile that makes it unusable. What I am saying is we have the capacity to manufacture plenty of vaccine that is highly effective and meets a higher safety profile than AZ.

The euros are in some trouble here. They have virtually no options other than AZ. And the AZ shot isn’t as effective as mRNAs and ~J&J, on top of it looking to have a rarely occurring safety issue.

Now to be fair here, the Euros should not have suspended use. For them there is a reasonable case to accept a small safety issue because they really don’t have another option. But for us we do not have to accept a lower safety profile than the vaccines we have in use.

It would take the euros months to scale up for Pfizer, Moderna and J&J and there ain’t no way we’re giving those away.

As to AZ getting approval in the US, I would expect a lot of paper shuffling and delays because we don’t want to publicly not authorize EUA on the premise that we have enough availability of more effective vaccine with a safer profile. That would be crushing to the European effort.

thank god for multiple Biden Vaccines

 

[UsualName]

Go ahead and say it. "THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP."

There ya go. You just needed a little help.

Even the Canadians will be taking Trump vaccines now.

Some right here on the forum. Maybe we can livestream it.

So this has already been discussed here:

The problem with you is that you fail to look at the totality of circumstance. Yes, the Trump Administration followed the model established to put multiple vaccines into development as I explained in February and so many times thereafter. Where they failed is in the delivery and scaling.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

The problem with you is that you fail to look at the totality of circumstance. Yes, the Trump Administration followed the model established to put multiple vaccines into development as I explained in February and so many times thereafter. Where they failed is in the delivery and scaling.

He did not fail on the scaling or the delivery. His plans provided for scaling up and options for more vaccines with companies and Biden exercises them as needed per the original Trump plan. In regard to delivery, Trump went through the start-up head-aches that every country has gone through and most have done worse. Joe came in after the vaccine was developed and after the initial start up problems were sorted out. This is how it goes in the business and government program world, eh? Start-ups and those responsible do the heavy lifting.

Biden and Obama are the same clowns who brought you the total, total Obamacare shiite-show launch and website fiasco, yet you like to think that those geniuses would not have had any of the start problems that Trump had to deal with. The delivery level that is occurring under Biden is not that lofty a goal or that heavy a lift. Biden is just playing Santa Claus handing out Trump vaccines. As I have said many times, this country does in excess of 3 million flu shots a day in normal flu season so the covid level is not anything spectacular. Bringing vaccines to market 4-8 years earlier than the norm- that is spectacular.

"Thank you President Trump" is what you meant to say

What's Joe doing today? Oh, I see. He is doing a great job of "distributing" Trump vaccine to Mexico and Canada.

 

[UsualName]

He did not fail on the scaling or the delivery. His plans provided for scaling up and options for more vaccines with companies and Biden exercises them as needed per the original Trump plan. In regard to delivery, Trump went through the start-up head-aches that every country has gone through and most have done worse. Joe came in after the vaccine was developed and after the initial start up problems were sorted out. This is how it goes in the business and government program world, eh? Start-ups and those responsible do the heavy lifting.

Biden and Obama are the same clowns who brought you the total, total Obamacare shiite-show launch and website fiasco, yet you like to think that those geniuses would not have had any of the start problems that Trump had to deal with. The delivery level that is occurring under Biden is not that lofty a goal or that heavy a lift. Biden is just playing Santa Claus handing out Trump vaccines. As I have said many times, this country does in excess of 3 million flu shots a day in normal flu season so the covid level is not anything spectacular. Bringing vaccines to market 4-8 years earlier than the norm- that is spectacular.

"Thank you President Trump" is what you meant to say

What's Joe doing today? Oh, I see. He is doing a great job of "distributing" Trump vaccine to Mexico and Canada.

This is wrong. Trump was hesitant to use the DPA for scaling and didn’t want to take any responsibility for vaccine administration other than delivery to states. Biden has used the DPA to increase scale and expanded delivery at the state level through pharmacy program. These were day 1 initiatives from Biden. We have nearly tripled production and delivery under Biden.

I know you think these things were just going to happen like magic but we are months ahead of where we would be with Trump.

However, Biden is heading for some difficulties relatively soon. Notice how governors are not complaining about supply anymore because they are nearly at administering as many doses as they can in many states.

There will be an issue of vaccine supply exceeding administration capacity relatively soon. Also, with the scale up management of appointments is going to be a major endeavor.

The reason why I keep pointing out the highest totals of vaccine administered in a day (currently 4 million) is because it is a good indicator of what we are capable of doing by mid-April, which is when we should really be rolling in earnest.

Now I’m sure if that scale goes well you’ll be saying thank Trump etc and of poorly, you’ll be blaming Biden because that’s how you are. But in this case as in the recent scale up it is on Biden. We shall see.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

This is wrong. Trump was hesitant to use the DPA for scaling and didn’t want to take any responsibility for vaccine administration other than delivery to states. Biden has used the DPA to increase scale and expanded delivery at the state level through pharmacy program. These were day 1 initiatives from Biden. We have nearly tripled production and delivery under Biden.

I know you think these things were just going to happen like magic but we are months ahead of where we would be with Trump.

However, Biden is heading for some difficulties relatively soon. Notice how governors are not complaining about supply anymore because they are nearly at administering as many doses as they can in many states.

There will be an issue of vaccine supply exceeding administration capacity relatively soon. Also, with the scale up management of appointments is going to be a major endeavor.

The reason why I keep pointing out the highest totals of vaccine administered in a day (currently 4 million) is because it is a good indicator of what we are capable of doing by mid-April, which is when we should really be rolling in earnest.

Now I’m sure if that scale goes well you’ll be saying thank Trump etc and of poorly, you’ll be blaming Biden because that’s how you are. But in this case as in the recent scale up it is on Biden. We shall see.

Oh Christ, are we back to the Biden and the pharmacy distribution thing again?

I/we covered that about as completely as possible. Including all my links showing pharmacy ceo's partnering with and announcing partnerships as part of the Trump original plan.

And yes, when it comes to distribution a key component is having vaccine to distribute - DUH! and the governors are finding the vaccine supply as a result of Trump's efforts while he was in office and implementation of the Trump plan after to be of maximum benefit to them.

Go ahead and say it: THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP.

 

[gwb-trading]

Oh Christ, are we back to the Biden and the pharmacy distribution thing again?

I/we covered that about as completely as possible. Including all my links showing pharmacy ceo's partnering with and announcing partnerships as part of the Trump original plan.

And yes, when it comes to distribution a key component is having vaccine to distribute - DUH! and the governors are finding the vaccine supply as a result of Trump's efforts while he was in office and implementation of the Trump plan after to be of maximum benefit to them.

Go ahead and say it: THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP.

Except all the pharmacy CEOs (except for CVS) never heard a word from the Trump administration when they asked for a plan of when they were getting doses to distribute and what they needed to do. CVS only got information about doses that they were going to administer at nursing homes by doing visits. The entire Trump distribution "plan" was basically non-existent and a complete clusterf@ck.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Except all the pharmacy CEOs (except for CVS) never heard a word from the Trump administration when they asked for a plan of when they were getting doses to distribute and what they needed to do. CVS only got information about doses that they were going to administer at nursing homes by doing visits. The entire Trump distribution "plan" was basically non-existent and a complete clusterf@ck.

Yeh. bullshit. I provided enough links to cover all of that and you are just repetitively doing biden bootlicking. You like just let a couple weeks go by and then revert to your script after it has been thoroughly disproven.

Homey ain't gonna play that game today. Earn your potato with someone else.

 

[UsualName]

Oh Christ, are we back to the Biden and the pharmacy distribution thing again?

I/we covered that about as completely as possible. Including all my links showing pharmacy ceo's partnering with and announcing partnerships as part of the Trump original plan.

And yes, when it comes to distribution a key component is having vaccine to distribute - DUH! and the governors are finding the vaccine supply as a result of Trump's efforts while he was in office and implementation of the Trump plan after to be of maximum benefit to them.

Go ahead and say it: THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP.

As explained to you over and over again, talk is cheap. It’s actually getting the scale and distribution that’s the hard part. Trump also planned on a google website that would schedule you with a test but that didn’t happen either, now did it?

Biden is getting this stuff done. It’s a big difference than just empty talk from Trump.

 

[gwb-trading]

As explained to you over and over again, talk is cheap. It’s actually getting the scale and distribution that’s the hard part. Trump also planned on a google website that would schedule you with a test but that didn’t happen either, now did it?

Biden is getting this stuff done. It’s a big difference than just empty talk from Trump.

That's the funny part. Trump announced a Google website but never told Google about his plans.