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This is wrong. Trump was hesitant to use the DPA for scaling and didn’t want to take any responsibility for vaccine administration other than delivery to states. Biden has used the DPA to increase scale and expanded delivery at the state level through pharmacy program. These were day 1 initiatives from Biden. We have nearly tripled production and delivery under Biden.

I know you think these things were just going to happen like magic but we are months ahead of where we would be with Trump.

However, Biden is heading for some difficulties relatively soon. Notice how governors are not complaining about supply anymore because they are nearly at administering as many doses as they can in many states.

There will be an issue of vaccine supply exceeding administration capacity relatively soon. Also, with the scale up management of appointments is going to be a major endeavor.

The reason why I keep pointing out the highest totals of vaccine administered in a day (currently 4 million) is because it is a good indicator of what we are capable of doing by mid-April, which is when we should really be rolling in earnest.

Now I’m sure if that scale goes well you’ll be saying thank Trump etc and of poorly, you’ll be blaming Biden because that’s how you are. But in this case as in the recent scale up it is on Biden. We shall see.

Are clowns on ignore still trying to hang Biden's victory on the vaccine front to incompetent Donnie? The lengths this scum will go to. What's next, another photoshop "Times person of the year" cover?
 
Are clowns on ignore still trying to hang Biden's victory on the vaccine front to incompetent Donnie? The lengths this scum will go to. What's next, another photoshop "Times person of the year" cover?

It’s a shame. This thread has actually been pretty worthwhile with good up to date info but the Trump goons always seem to mess this stuff up.
 
As explained to you over and over again, talk is cheap. It’s actually getting the scale and distribution that’s the hard part. Trump also planned on a google website that would schedule you with a test but that didn’t happen either, now did it?

Biden is getting this stuff done. It’s a big difference than just empty talk from Trump.

Vaccines developed and brought to market 4-6 six years earlier than the experts had predicted or done before.

Which President "got that stuff done."

Oh I see. He left office right as the distribution was beginning and was in its ramp up period so you all project that there would have been no ramping up after that. Really? Because Trump has never made anything happen before and Joe Biden- who accomplished absolutely nothing in 50 years in government- knows how to make things happen? Heh, he can't find two socks that match in the morning. Figuring out distribution is a normal extension of launching any product. Joe is just Santa Claus handing out Trump vaccines per the trump distribution plan that he would have adjusted as he went along, just as Biden has had to do.
 
Vaccines developed and brought to market 4-6 six years earlier than the experts had predicted or done before.

Which President "got that stuff done."

Oh I see. He left office right as the distribution was beginning and was in its ramp up period so you all project that there would have been no ramping up after that. Really? Because Trump has never made anything happen before and Joe Biden- who accomplished absolutely nothing in 50 years in government- knows how to make things happen? Heh, he can't find two socks that match in the morning. Figuring out distribution is a normal extension of launching any product. Joe is just Santa Claus handing out Trump vaccines per the trump distribution plan that he would have adjusted as he went along, just as Biden has had to do.

It was Pfizer and Moderna that got it done here in the states. Actually Pfizer is a German company but that’s a different story that doesn’t follow your fiction.

And again, you make this argument off of one opinion piece not from a consensus of experts. Most experts fell in line with it’s doable.

You watch this Fox News stuff and accept what they tell you as gospel but sound ridiculous when make these arguments outside of the right wing bubble.

Additionally, vaccines were developed globally, not just here in the US.
 
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It was Pfizer and Moderna that got it done here in the states. And again, you make this argument off of one opinion piece not from a consensus of experts. You watch this Fox News stuff and accept what they tell you as gospel but sound ridiculous when make these arguments outside of the right wing bubble.

Additionally, vaccines were developed globally, not just here in the US.

Also, Joe's new diplomatic policies in regard to Mexico and Canada is based on dressing up as Santa Clause and handing out Trump vaccines.

Wayyy to go Joe.

He should be thanking Trump even more than Rob Ford is.
 
Also, Joe's new diplomatic policies in regard to Mexico and Canada is based on dressing up as Santa Clause and handing out Trump vaccines.

Wayyy to go Joe.

He should be thanking Trump even more than Rob Ford is.

Now the Astrazenica shot is a Trump vaccine too? That’s very Trumpian of you. Get it together. This is getting boring.
 
Now the Astrazenica shot is a Trump vaccine too? That’s very Trumpian of you. Get it together. This is getting boring.

Absolutely. Trump placed orders even before it was approved to jumpstart the whole process.

So the availability of it makes it a Trump vaccine and there are two production plants in the U.S. that were set up and are set up to produce AstraZ vaccine as part of the Trump portfolio of vaccines. One in Baltimore, I think and another in some place like Ohio.
 
Absolutely. Trump placed orders even before it was approved to jumpstart the whole process.

So the availability of it makes it a Trump vaccine and there are two production plants in the U.S. that were set up and are set up to produce AstraZ vaccine as part of the Trump portfolio of vaccines. One in Baltimore, I think and another in some place like Ohio.

Look, this is getting super lame. I get you want people to recognize the Trump Administration’s role in the development of the vaccine. They did have a role and it was important. But I’m not the right guy to try to force this “Trump vaccine” narrative on. It’s one of the only things I give in this whole Covid mess I give him credit on. But if you think I’m going to give him undue credit for it’s development or say he overcame some mythological scientific doubt you’re nuts. He put the money out there and in different pots. He did not fuck that up. But that in no way pardons the whole fucked up response he lead for a year. Go somewhere else with this. Please.
 
Look, this is getting super lame. I get you want people to recognize the Trump Administration’s role in the development of the vaccine. They did have a role and it was important. But I’m not the right guy to try to force this “Trump vaccine” narrative on. It’s one of the only things I give in this whole Covid mess I give him credit on. But if you think I’m going to give him undue credit for it’s development or say he overcame some mythological scientific doubt you’re nuts. He put the money out there and in different pots. He did not fuck that up. But that in no way pardons the whole fucked up response he lead for a year. Go somewhere else with this. Please.

Just saying, we are sitting on millions of doses of AstraZ with more capacity in the pipeline since they built facilities in the U.S in response to Trump's pre-ordering - even at the risk of the vaccine not being approved.

Just sayin.

I know that Joe flying them or trucking them up to Canada or to Mexico is an important contribution too. Maybe if we give the Fed Ex driver the Nobel Peace Prize for delivering Trump's vaccine we should include Biden too. Yeh, I can see that.
 
Just saying, we are sitting on millions of doses of AstraZ with more capacity in the pipeline since they built facilities in the U.S in response to Trump's pre-ordering - even at the risk of the vaccine not being approved.

Just sayin.

I know that Joe flying them or trucking them up to Canada or to Mexico is an important contribution too. Maybe if we give the Fed Ex driver the Nobel Peace Prize for delivering Trump's vaccine we should include Biden too. Yeh, I can see that.

Id give it even money that the US doesn’t administer a single Astrazenica shot.

States are already planning on opening vaccinations for all adults by April 15.
 
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