Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

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i know all about them.. and i have been a vocal critic. but i am more afraid of the govt and CPS/foster care. and as far as mind control goes.. i find most people in today's society are drinking the koolaid.

you seem fixated on destroying these people.... i find that disturbing.


how do you feel about the amish?
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Fixated on destroying these people? That is your attempt to turn this debate of trying to protect the rights of those uninformed cult members into an attempt by me to destroy them. What should be destroyed is their controlling system, not their people.

Do the amish men have sex with many young girls?...all in the name of god of course.
I am no expert on Amish people but I do know that at around 16 is when the young girls AND boys begin to socialize. And these young girls and boys can meet many of their peers and can choose someone they wish to marry. It is a mutual agreement and the girls husband is not chosen for her.
But this sect we are talking about arrange marriages of 14 year old girls to much older men who already have many wives. And the girl has no say over who she marrys. Give me a break.
 
Quote from nutmeg:

but i am more afraid of the govt and CPS/foster care.

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Maybe the enormity of this incident will highlight the constituional deficiencies re CPS/foster care procedures?
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very good nutmeg.. that is exactly what i am thinking. there is already a movement on the internet.. i imagine this with push many videos to go viral.
 
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Fixated on destroying these people? That is your attempt to turn this debate of trying to protect the rights of those uninformed cult members into an attempt by me to destroy them. What should be destroyed is their controlling system, not their people.

Do the amish men have sex with many young girls?...all in the name of god of course.
I am no expert on Amish people but I do know that at around 16 is when the young girls AND boys begin to socialize. And these young girls and boys can meet many of their peers and can choose someone they wish to marry. It is a mutual agreement and the girls husband is not chosen for her.
But this sect we are talking about arrange marriages of 14 year old girls to much older men who already have many wives. And the girl has no say over who she marrys. Give me a break.
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calm down junior .... here watch this:

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calm down junior .... here watch this:

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This man spits out his percents to come to a conclusion about teenage pregnancy and sexuality of mainstream america verses this sect. So you use this mans conclusion as a defense. What is interesting is you yourself have said "what evidence". Yes that is correct. Right now DNA tests are still being performed and it is a huge task trying to figure out who is the father of whom and who is the mother. Therefore this video you posted as evidence is flawed math because all information is not available as yet It is in the beginning stages of being investigated.
 
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This man spits out his percents to come to a conclusion about teenage pregnancy and sexuality of mainstream america verses this sect. So you use this mans conclusion as a defense. What is interesting is you yourself have said "what evidence". Yes that is correct. Right now DNA tests are still being performed and it is a huge task trying to figure out who is the father of whom and who is the mother. Therefore this video you posted as evidence is flawed math because all information is not available as yet It is in the beginning stages of being investigated.
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actually his math is flawed but not for the reasons you stated. but the point is... secular rape and molestation and teen pregnancy are probably much higher than these communities. i don't know.... but i can tell you this... the foster care community? now thats off the charts!!!!! and thats where these poor defenseless children are headed.


i should post the "boys town" video where they were shipping young boys into the white house for sex in the late 80s.

nutmeg made a very wise observation... i think this will shed some light on a lot of bad shit.
 
Quote from ratboy88:

actually his math is flawed but not for the reasons you stated. but the point is... secular rape and molestation and teen pregnancy are probably much higher than these communities. i don't know.... but i can tell you this... the foster care community? now thats off the charts!!!!! and thats where these poor defenseless children are headed.

I agree foster care could potentially be a bad choice for these children. That is not saying all foster care is bad, but no doubt there are people out there who want to be foster parents only for the state money they receive, or for access to children they can abuse. Do you think most foster parents are with bad intentions? Or is it just a small percent of foster parents who are harmful? Yes nutmeg brought up a good point that maybe this situation will be the catalyst to create a better foster care.


i should post the "boys town" video where they were shipping young boys into the white house for sex in the late 80s.

nutmeg made a very wise observation... i think this will shed some light on a lot of bad shit.
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Re' CPS, family court, foster care, etc You have controlled gaurded information outlet via HIPPA and family court procedures. Any first hand info will always be one sided. None of this is open for a two sided discussion. This subject is DOA?
 
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Re' CPS, family court, foster care, etc You have controlled gaurded information outlet via HIPPA and family court procedures. Any first hand info will always be one sided. None of this is open for a two sided discussion. This subject is DOA?
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look.. there are some great people working for the kids within the system.. i don't mean to lump all together. but sometimes CPS acts like the IRS:

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Quote from nutmeg:

Re' CPS, family court, foster care, etc You have controlled gaurded information outlet via HIPPA and family court procedures. Any first hand info will always be one sided. None of this is open for a two sided discussion. This subject is DOA?
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I don't understand DOA. What does this mean?

Also, are those children of the sect in foster care, or are they in shelters?
 
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