Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

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That is your right to feel one wife is a curse, and you have the right not to marry. That is a good thing you have that right.
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ok... junior i was just messin about the curse. needed some comic relief for a second.
 
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i sure as hell wouldn't kidnap 400 kids that had nothing to do with it. there is one young boy with downs syndrome ... i would re unite him with his mother immediately.

i haven't even begun to document the foster care horror stories... so much to post and just one rat here.
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Interesting. Trend asked how might handle the sitaution and the best you can offer is what you wouldn"t do, not exactly a plan.

Re; the downs syndrome child, you can't be sure who his mother is and the boy can't be sure what his true name (ie birth certificate) is or who his siblings are but we'll return him to "mother" for who's benefit? The mothers or yours? We could return him to "mother" for his own sake but these "mothers" have demostrated that they are unable to protect their children.

Your petty arguement re the legal age of marriage, "Was 14, now 16". Ask around. I don't believe there are many mothers advocating for their daughters to marry at that age in open society. Again, for who's benefit if a girl marries at 14 or 16 and why?

Does Texas provide a law gaurdian for a child removed from the home? If so, then the children have representation and don't need you, I or the public, do we?


Why weren't there any fathers of the children on Larry King?

Your fascination with the number "400" kids are kidnapped. Suppose we just took 4 kids and returned the rest. What message does that send to the 4 kids, "you must be bad, the police only took four of you and returned the rest."

If a mom, dad and four children are a unit living in a home, then >100 adults with 400 kids living in a home (compound) is a unit. It is common for CPS to remove all the children if only one child reports abuse.

What are you advocating for with your arguements?
 
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Interesting. Trend asked how might handle the sitaution and the best you can offer is what you wouldn"t do, not exactly a plan.

Re; the downs syndrome child, you can't be sure who his mother is and the boy can't be sure what his true name (ie birth certificate) is or who his siblings are but we'll return him to "mother" for who's benefit? The mothers or yours? We could return him to "mother" for his own sake but these "mothers" have demostrated that they are unable to protect their children.

Your petty arguement re the legal age of marriage, "Was 14, now 16". Ask around. I don't believe there are many mothers advocating for their daughters to marry at that age in open society. Again, for who's benefit if a girl marries at 14 or 16 and why?

Does Texas provide a law gaurdian for a child removed from the home? If so, then the children have representation and don't need you, I or the public, do we?


Why weren't there any fathers of the children on Larry King?

Your fascination with the number "400" kids are kidnapped. Suppose we just took 4 kids and returned the rest. What message does that send to the 4 kids, "you must be bad, the police only took four of you and returned the rest."

If a mom, dad and four children are a unit living in a home, then >100 adults with 400 kids living in a home (compound) is a unit. It is common for CPS to remove all the children if only one child reports abuse.

What are you advocating for with your arguements?
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Yes, it is true that some of these children don't know who their biological mother is becasue they are raised with many moms. It is a puzzle and will be a long task getting to the truth. I feel the authoritys are doing a good job of helping the victims of this sect so far.
 
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Yes, it is true that some of these children don't know who their biological mother is becasue they are raised with many moms. It is a puzzle and will be a long task getting to the truth. I feel the authoritys are doing a good job of helping the victims of this sect so far.
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more media propaganda... that's all the media and CPS know how to do. i'm still waiting for the first fact to come out of their lizard mouths. that will be refreshing.
 
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Re; the downs syndrome child, you can't be sure who his mother is and the boy can't be sure what his true name (ie birth certificate) is or who his siblings are but we'll return him to "mother" for who's benefit? The mothers or yours? We could return him to "mother" for his own sake but these "mothers" have demostrated that they are unable to protect their children.
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there is absolutely no question as to who the child's mother is. their rigidness in this is mind boggling. my blood boils when i think of that little child not knowing where his mother is. he didn't do anything.. she didn't do anything.... this is horrific.
 
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Interesting. Trend asked how might handle the sitaution and the best you can offer is what you wouldn"t do, not exactly a plan.
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i know it is just pitiful isn't it. poor stupid ratboy thinks the Constitution means something... maybe we should just void the 4th and 5th amendments.... they weren't put there for a reason.

let's just go invade homes at random.. you know these US citizen bastards are up to something.


so seriously, if i was in charge? i would go to the ranch and investigate. i would also want to know where that phone call had come from. when i realized the call was a hoax... i would arrest the hoaxer. if i found any other criminal activity i would pursue those individuals. i would not detain 400 kids... some of them toddlers. that is crazy!


and i would avoid foster care with every ounce of my being.. talk about a horror show. i don't hate the kids like you guys do.
 
Quote from ratboy88:

there is absolutely no question as to who the child's mother is. their rigidness in this is mind boggling. my blood boils when i think of that little child not knowing where his mother is. he didn't do anything.. she didn't do anything.... this is horrific.
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Ratboy, we are talking about a sect of people who have gone unchecked over the years due to their secretive nature. They have learned how to get around the law and grow their numbers over the years. Ex members have given their account of the mind control that they use, and it is fact that minor girls are having babies. They are not mormons, but a group that broke away from mormons and started their own society with rules that mormons reject. At one time women did make informed choice to be one of many wives, but now it has come to this group that has broken off from mormons and breed their own who are raised with no awareness of the outside, and are conditioned to be the sex partners and baby makers of the elite members. That is more horrific in my mind than the temporary seperation of a child and their mother with the intention of helping them.
Look Ratboy, everyone knows men do see the beauty of youth in a teenage girl. That is no crime or secret. But to build a society that allows men of any age to have their share sexually of youth and beauty by keeping those girls ignorant, uneducated, and using religion as a tool to brainwash these girls that they must submit to be worthy in the eyes of god is really sick.
 
i know all about them.. and i have been a vocal critic. but i am more afraid of the govt and CPS/foster care. and as far as mind control goes.. i find most people in today's society are drinking the koolaid.

you seem fixated on destroying these people.... i find that disturbing.


how do you feel about the amish?
 
but i am more afraid of the govt and CPS/foster care.

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Maybe the enormity of this incident will highlight the constituional deficiencies re CPS/foster care procedures?
 
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