jesus is god......lmao

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the creation speaks for the creator. the creation is sufficient evidence of a creator. what don't you understand ?

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Dont you realize how silly and naive you sound?? You believe in a creator because you can't immediately explain or comprehend what you see.. so thats enuf for you to make the GRAND ASSUMPTION OF ALL ASSUMPTIONS >> CREATOR!

it is sooo foolish on your part!

you dont just up and believe in Unicorns because you see an unusual turd on ground!

What dont YOU understand??!
 
One would naturally wonder, the way you turned out, of what importance you could possibly be to your mother and father?

Why would God care for the souls? Because it is His nature to care for the souls.

Why is there a first cause?

Quote from LongShot:

OK, let's try to get some leverage on this question with reason:

let's begin with a simple reasonable Q:

IAL, we are animals scratching and clawing on a miniscule insignificant planet, situated in an insignificant solar system, in an isig' galaxy of which there are infinite numbers in an infinite universe.

of what importance could we possibly be to an omnipotent perfect being??
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It's true we are on opposite ends of the spectrun, but you will find that I rarely if ever enter a thread with my views unless the posters are slamming God and saying there is no evidence whatsoever. Then I will stick up for my beliefs and for the idea that one can be JudeoChristian and not be irrational...
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there is no REAL evidence for your god! you have NOTHING! that is basis for your belief.. NOTHING!
 
Quote from ARogueTrader:

One would naturally wonder, the way you turned out, of what importance you could possibly be to your mother and father?

Why would God care for the souls? Because it is His nature to care for the souls.

Why is there a first cause?
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oh really.. and why is that? why is it his nature to care??
 
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there is no REAL evidence for your god! you have NOTHING! that is basis for your belief.. NOTHING!
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ritchie -- you crack me up. you are a TRUE BELIEVER athiest with a religious FERVOR that matches only that of thunderbolt on this site. LOL !

LOL !!

surfer
 
Quote from ShoeshineBoy:

What?? Whether you believe in God or not, you have to recognize that the human brain is anything but insignificant. Inside our heads is a 5 Cray supercomputer that is probably the holographic, parallel-processing 8th wonder of the world. Imo one can never call what is in between our ears insignificant.

But there is only one reason that I know of in the Bible: love by free choice. I know you're going to criticize this answer as cheesy, but I believe it to be the truth. God simply wants to build up a billion plus people from every nation on the earth that love him and each other by free choice. God could make a million robots that "love" Him, but that is not the same as beings that face temptation and yet choose to love Him anyway.

Let me ask this: Is there a bigger rush on the planet for a guy to have a female think he is #1 and to choose him as #1 even though there are hundreds of other guys to choose from? I don't think so anyway...
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your claims of human cray computer capabilities is LAUGHABLE!! you have NOTHING of the sort in side your head. my god man you can barely reason the simplest relationships! man's mind is so fallible it is frightening! one look at world today and it is undeniable that we can barely reason our way to the fridge for christ sakes!!
 
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One would naturally wonder, the way you turned out, of what importance you could possibly be to your mother and father?

Why would God care for the souls? Because it is His nature to care for the souls.

Why is there a first cause?
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i know you do not base your beliefs in biblical precepts, may i ask then, how do you know the nature of god ??

surfer
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

thanks ! i am not saying it doesn't happen, just that i have not seen or heard any credible evidence of same other than claims like above. it is my contention that god or particularly satan would be happy to prove themselves to scoffers like randi.

if i did see an event like you describe, i would not automatically seek a supernatural cause and be thinking trickery or simply mind power if no trickery was involved. time after time, these healers have been exposed as charlatans.

best,

surfer

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It's hard for me not to go on and on, but I promise I'll stop after this. I remember seeing one guy lay hands on people and one by one virtually everyone fell. But one individual in particular stood out. It was a huge, powerfully built African American guy. When the evangelist touched his head his knees just buckled. I don't mean they bent and he slumped over. I mean it looked like someone hit the back of his legs with a 2 X 4. It simply would not be possible for someone to fake that. And, believe me, no 60 year old southern preacher pushing with all his strength on this guy could buckle his knees like that - this guy was huge....
 
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