Jesus Christ (What Christians, Jews, and Muslims Say About Him)

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Explain gravity first. How is the pulling done? Physicts only describe, they cannot explain or build fundamental forces (gravity is one of them).
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Jesus explained this already 2000 years ago! He said that whatever is built on sand will fall. The bigger the building, the greater the fall! How did he know that? And yet, no one has yet been able to explain how Allah's amazing artifice will fall! It will fall greatly when the Truth *pulls the rug out* from underneath it's preposterous preposition!!!

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Jesus explained this already 2000 years ago! He said that whatever is built on sand will fall. The bigger the building, the greater the fall! How did he know that? And yet, no one has yet been able to explain how Allah's amazing artifice will fall! It will fall greatly when the Truth *pulls the rug out* from underneath it's preposterous preposition!!!

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But things build on sand or on anything will fall, etc, were know to men even 2000 years BEFORE JESUS.

I have to stop exchanging with you "I am..".

I was serious in my exchange but you seem more wanting to have fun rather than truths/facts.
 
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But things build on sand or on anything will fall, etc, were know to men even 2000 years BEFORE JESUS.

I have to stop exchanging with you "I am..".

I was serious in my exchange but you seem more wanting to have fun rather than truths/facts.
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Brother, how can anyone be serious about a hologram and the hopeless hype that helps hail it as "holy"?


Christ!
 
Quote from riskfreetrading:

But things build on sand or on anything will fall, etc, were know to men even 2000 years BEFORE JESUS.

I was serious in my exchange but you seem more wanting to have fun rather than truths/facts.
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I thought you were the one having fun so I want to have fun too. It seems the Quran failed to mention that the world of Allah is a hologram that will eventually fall when the truth about it comes out.

How did Jesus know it was built on sand, and how does he know it will fall?

You seem to say that because no one knows how it will fall yet, it won't fall.

How will it fall? The truth will pull it down brick by brick, one scientific revelation at a time.

Christ!
 
We do not have what Jesus said. All what we have is a bunch of people who say Jesus said "...". They even appointed themselves, or their followers appointed them, as prophets. Example: Paul.

I would have taken those people who wrote those books more seriously if they did not contradict themselves, each other, or did not say wrong things.

Therefore when the bible says that Jesus the lord said "XXX". I have no assurance whether the XXX is right or wrong, or fabricated. In fact the bible is evidence that I should actually consider all of Jesus said "XXX", as false because they have changed the "XXX" over time.
 
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We do not have what Jesus said. All what we have is a bunch of people who say Jesus said "...". They even appointed themselves, or their followers appointed them, as prophets. Example: Paul.

I would have taken those people who wrote those books more seriously if they did not contradict themselves, each other, or did not say wrong things.

Therefore when the bible says that Jesus the lord said "XXX". I have no assurance whether the XXX is right or wrong, or fabricated. In fact the bible is evidence that I should actually consider all of Jesus said "XXX", as false because they have changed the "XXX" over time.
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There is a grain of truth in this.
So it must be taken it with a grain of salt.

I select carefully among a small percentage of authentic quotes.
One must read between the lines...through ancient, mistaken, mental filters that tell us what Jesus said and/or what he meant.
It is like reaching in among thorns to get a single blackberry.
The fruit is hidden by layers of political and Paulitical players.
One must intuit between wheat and tares.
The wheat is not enough to feed on for salvation.
So the sheep have been starving.
It's as if the authentic message of truth was crucified all over...mangled beyond recognition...mocked and made into a rediculous parody.
I am resurrecting it all over again.



Christ!
 
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Here is another example of black/white tests in the Quran that just came to mind. In Arabic there is female and male form in the VERB even for animals/insects/etc.

Let us take the case of bees that go out and work , because they are discussed in the Quran. I think the Quran refer to them in female form (implied from the verb). Could someone with arabic expertise check this?

Now what does science say about working bees. Are the bees male or female?

YOU added "working". All bees work - when the drones fertilize the queen, they are dragged out to die. There are both male (drones) AND females (workers, queens).

In my head bees are males.

Your head is wrong.

My recollection is that in the Quran they are females. Do we know the sex of the bees, and if yes when did we know their sex?

Yes we know.

If their sex was know at time when Quran came, then this can be used as an example to test the Quran.

It obviously wasn't known to the Qu'ran, since there are both male and female bees.

If however this knowledge known only afterwards (which is likely as biology was know advanced back then) then the Quran made the correct assignment of sex to bees (a chance of 1 out of 2).

It did not. The Quran was wrong.
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Quote from I am...:

There is a grain of truth in this.
So it must be taken it with a grain of salt.

I select carefully among a small percentage of authentic quotes.
One must read between the lines...through ancient, mistaken, mental filters that tell us what Jesus said and/or what he meant.
It is like reaching in among thorns to get a single blackberry.
The fruit is hidden by layers of political and Paulitical players.
One must intuit between wheat and tares.
The wheat is not enough to feed on for salvation.
So the sheep have been starving.
It's as if the authentic message of truth was crucified all over...mangled beyond recognition...mocked and made into a rediculous parody.
I am resurrecting it all over again.



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I think I got what you are saying.

Truth never dies. Even if you crucify it, it resurrects (via contact with thinking minds, simply hybernate till the monent where it ressurects, etc). It rises again. May fall against, rises again, etc.

Similar to a stock: Mark up, stays flat, mark down.

Bankruptcy is the end of the stock.

Is there an equivalent event in case of life?
 
Quote from riskfreetrading:

TZ:

In third from latest post, you wrote:

"There are many reasons of much more substantial nature why we do not believe the Qur'an to be from the one true God."

What we want is a proof, not a belief. So instance I gave you the example in Quran where it says that the Pharaoh will be preserved, and will be found. That is an undisputable evidence. There is no room for belief and subjective statements. The Pharaoh was found, preserved in the sea. Do you know of any dead man who is found in the sea preserved for several 1000 years?

I told you to give JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

The Qu'ran is found to have hundreds of errors. You and Islam purport it to be error free. Most of those links in the site I gave make it quite obvious the Qu'ran is quite flawed.

Which example do you want to discuss from your list? Be precise.

We will discuss the example that you claim the Qu'ran to be error-free and I provided well over a hundred examples that

No room for beliefs, we want to test with cold/hard facts.

Yes, I provided a lengthy list that your belief in the Qu'ran flies in the face of reality. But you believe otherwise

We then can have knowledgeable people in Quran and in science assess your charge against the Quran.

I am a scientist. I looked at the list on the site I gave you. The Qu'ran is obviously very very flawed.

I look forward to your challenge, but my estimate of your chances of success are close to ZERO.

That book (Quran) is mightly done, but if you succeed to break it with factual evidence (no opinions) then I will listen to wha you have to say.

I broke it quite handily. You ignored the results and keep punting. You believe the Qu'ran to be error-free. I gave a lengthy list of obvious flaws. It is YOUR job to prove this fact, not others.

The Qu'ran is nothing more than a lengthy list of ramblings trying to one up the Judeo-Christian writings (constantly telling the Jew and Christian people that they were wrong and somehow Islam knows better).
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