Is Peak Oil a Fallacy?

[achilles28]

Quote from Misthos:

So we drop bombs for the hell of it? Then why aren't we dropping bombs elsewhere? Why is it that we're always dropping bombs near energy resources? Why are we stationed near energy rich areas?

C'mon... you make no sense.

You must be extremely naive if you think War for Profit doesn't exist.

Who do you think finances the election of our War Mongers-in-Chief, anyway? The Red Cross?

Bombing the Middle East vastly enriches the 4 biggest Lobby Groups in America - Oil, Defense, Wallstreet and APAIC.

Occupying the Middle East keeps Israel happy, record crude prices for Big Oil, tons of cash funneled to the Military-Industrial-Complex, and Wallstreet churning record levels in T-bills. That's what America is: a Corporatocracy. Democracy-for-Hire.

If Oil is so plentiful, then why go to War?

Because War is end to itself, Mithos. You don't get it.

Americans need to be sold on the case for war. So even if the looming specter of terror doesn't scare them into submission, HEY, WE NEED THE OIL.

War is end to itself. To wage War, we need an Excuse.

Oil - and the myth that "We're running out of Oil" - is a great excuse to make War.

 

[achilles28]

Quote from failed_trad3r:

yes, we call is bio-ethanol
its made from plants.

LOL you want to believe in abiotic so much, it becomes idiotic

Has crude oil ever been made using dead animals? In the lab?

Please answer that.

 

[achilles28]

Quote from Misthos:

You're in a fantasyland. "For all we know" type of conjecture does not put food on the table.

But you know what? I won't argue if oil is biotic or abiotic or if it's possible for it to be both. The bottom line is that oil depletes, and likely faster than it can be created. That sounds like peak production of a resource to me.

And I'm not freaking out about an energy crash... the Pentagon is, and rightly so. That's why we have built a billion dollar embassy in Iraq that's bigger than the Vatican. And now that embassy wants to double in personnel.

Could you please contact the Department of Energy, the Pentagon, and the Office of the president of the United States and tell them - no need to worry! Oil is abiotic and replenishes! It's abundant!!! Just keep drilling!!!

(By the way, the lower 48 is the most drilled area in the world - and it still peaked)

Your message would save the country billions. We could use that money for the upcoming pension/social security/medicare collapse.

LOL @ "The Pentagon IS".

Yea, and Saddam had nukes that could be launched in 45 mins! With ties to Al Queda !!

That's why we invaded, remember?!!

You crack me up, man. Seriously. You are one naive, dude.

The Pentagon needs a rational to Make War.

War is profitable. And it allows us to impose our vision on the World, by Force.

We need a reason to use that Force.

Hence, the Pentagon concocts bullshit fantasies like Saddam has suitcase nukes, Al Queda will destroy the US, or Oil will soon run out ! So will WATER, too !! :eek: :eek:

Just let us bomb whoever we want and you'll be okay...

 

[achilles28]

Quote from Misthos:

You're in a fantasyland. "For all we know" type of conjecture does not put food on the table.

Ironically, you just admitted you don't know where crude oil comes from . But I'm "living in fantasy land". Yea, okay.

Crude oil has been created in the LAB, by scientists, using heat, pressure and inorganic elements.

Next, we find hydrocarbons on planets devoid of life.

Gee 1 + 1 = 2 ?!?!

Has crude oil EVER been made in the lab from dead animals?

You've dodged that questions several times now.

Anyway, have fun with the Bed Wetters.

 

[Fat Tails]

Quote from achilles28:

Have scientists ever created oil from rotted organic matter? You never answered that question. And a few others, now that we're counting.

As far as wells depleting. It's possible the abiotic creation of oil is localized to some areas, and not others. The by-product of that reaction (oil), follows the path of least resistance until it finds a resting place (wells). Once we discover a well, we take it out, faster than its replenished.

For all humans know, existing wells are replenished, and new ones created, all the time.

Don't make yourself a fool!

 

[Misthos]

achilles28... your'e right. Oil has nothing to do with wars in the middle east. We just go to war for adventure and to because we hate that women over there are not allowed to drive and have to wear burkas. yeah, that's it.

Conclude what you wish.

 

[achilles28]

Quote from Fat Tails:

Don't make yourself a fool!

Another die-hard Bed-Wetter, huh?

Has any scientist replicated the creation of crude oil from organic matter?

Please post the experiement. I would love to see it.

 

[Misthos]

Quote from achilles28:

Ironically, you just admitted you don't know where crude oil comes from . But I'm "living in fantasy land". Yea, okay.

Crude oil has been created in the LAB, by scientists, using heat, pressure and inorganic elements.

Next, we find hydrocarbons on planets devoid of life.

Gee 1 + 1 = 2 ?!?!

Has crude oil EVER been made in the lab from dead animals?

You've dodged that questions several times now.

Anyway, have fun with the Bed Wetters.

I was assuming arguendo... for argument's sake, it's a debating tool - are you that thick? I said that regardless of oil's origin, wells deplete and so too do regions of the world that contain oil.

You see, there are two issues. 1)Oil's origin 2)production/supply and resource depletion as a result.

Do you have the intellectual capacity to separate the two issues?

Are you the type that fears peak oil so much, you piss your pants and cover your ears and scream la! la! la! the tooth fairy will make more oil!!! in a fit of cognitive dissonance?

Just wondering.

 

[achilles28]

Quote from Misthos:

achilles28... your'e right. Oil has nothing to do with wars in the middle east. We just go to war for adventure and to because we hate that women over there are not allowed to drive and have to wear burkas. yeah, that's it.

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Conclude what you wish.

Gay.

For a smart guy, you fail to consider ulterior motives and vested interests.

Enjoy the Bed Wetters

 

[achilles28]

Quote from Misthos:

I was assuming arguendo... for argument's sake, it's a debating tool - are you that thick? I said that regardless of oil's origin, wells deplete and so too do regions of the world that contain oil.

You see, there are two issues. 1)Oil's origin 2)production/supply and resource depletion as a result.

Do you have the intellectual capacity to separate the two issues?

Are you the type that fears peak oil so much, you piss your pants and cover your ears and scream la! la! la! the tooth fairy will make more oil!!! in a fit of cognitive dissonance?

Just wondering.

You're getting really emotional over this. Calm down. You look like an ass.

And you keep dodging my questions. Please answer them. I took the time to address yours:

1) Was Crude Oil ever created in the lab from rotting organic matter?

2) How much of the earths surface has been explored for Oil?

3) How much of the earths sea-bed has been explored for Oil?


I think when you find the answer to those questions, you won't be so inclined to believe every 2012 theory out there.