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As long as the government does not take away your ability to start a business you are in charge of your own future. Stop complaining about socialism and get off your butt and go do something. Opportunity awaits you.
It amazes me that after the past year, stupid Republicans can still stand up and say the best way to move the middle class up is to make the rich even richer. I mean seriously, turn off Sean Hannity for 2 minutes and use your freakinâ brain. Thatâs like saying to cure world hunger, we should spend a bunch of money to give all the patrons at Ruthâs Chris even more steak and potatoes because that way more food will get thrown out in the dumpster for the homeless people.Quote from Mercor:
When you tax the wealthy, tax business, raise tariffs, mandate wages and benefits, you lock in the ruling class. It makes it more difficult for the middle class to move up.
I donât think Socialism is a viable option, in fact I voted for Ron Paul. Really if you just get rid of the fractional reserve banking, the gap will narrow significantly. But I do love it when people talk about Socialism as if itâs just taking the ârichâsâ money and giving it to everybody else. Like it doesnât matter what you do, the government is just gonna send you a check that they took from some rich guy. Thatâs not it at all. Does anybody actually think that a system would be set up whereby everybody just shares everything no matter what they do?Quote from IanMacQuaide:
M. Thatcher said "The problem with Socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other peoples money."
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I donât think Socialism is a viable option, in fact I voted for Ron Paul. Really if you just get rid of the fractional reserve banking, the gap will narrow significantly. But I do love it when people talk about Socialism as if itâs just taking the ârichâsâ money and giving it to everybody else. Like it doesnât matter what you do, the government is just gonna send you a check that they took from some rich guy. Thatâs not it at all. Does anybody actually think that a system would be set up whereby everybody just shares everything no matter what they do?
Pretend for a minute that you had a âsocializedâ company. Everybody got paid the same. Or maybe the workers all got paid the same, and the managers a little more but all the same. Republicans act like under this system everybody is just getting a free check from someone elseâs pocket. They all do unequal work, but all get the same pay. In fact, you donât even have to show up to work to get paid. In reality thatâs not how it would work at all. Itâs more like the company(government) decides how much each job pays and then the person does the job and then gets paid. Do you actually think this pretend âsocializedâ company would still send a check to all those people who didnât show up to work and are liabilities to the company? All these stupid Republican catch phrases like â the problem with Socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other peoples moneyâ are just fancy slogans to win elections and keep the people dumbed down. "
So what you are suggesting is we institute title based compensation? If you are a janitor you make X dollars a year. It does not matter if you are the greatest janitor in the world or you sit on your mop bucket all day long? As long as you show up, you get paid.
What will ever drive innovation? Everyone will revert to the BARE MINIMUM EFFORT just to keep their job once they realize that effort and performance are rewarded equally with laziness as everyone knows its much easier to just be lazy.
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I donât think Socialism is a viable option, in fact I voted for Ron Paul. Really if you just get rid of the fractional reserve banking, the gap will narrow significantly. But I do love it when people talk about Socialism as if itâs just taking the ârichâsâ money and giving it to everybody else. Like it doesnât matter what you do, the government is just gonna send you a check that they took from some rich guy. Thatâs not it at all. Does anybody actually think that a system would be set up whereby everybody just shares everything no matter what they do?
Pretend for a minute that you had a âsocializedâ company. Everybody got paid the same. Or maybe the workers all got paid the same, and the managers a little more but all the same. Republicans act like under this system everybody is just getting a free check from someone elseâs pocket. They all do unequal work, but all get the same pay. In fact, you donât even have to show up to work to get paid. In reality thatâs not how it would work at all. Itâs more like the company(government) decides how much each job pays and then the person does the job and then gets paid. Do you actually think this pretend âsocializedâ company would still send a check to all those people who didnât show up to work and are liabilities to the company? All these stupid Republican catch phrases like â the problem with Socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other peoples moneyâ are just fancy slogans to win elections and keep the people dumbed down. "
So what you are suggesting is we institute title based compensation? If you are a janitor you make X dollars a year. It does not matter if you are the greatest janitor in the world or you sit on your mop bucket all day long? As long as you show up, you get paid.
What will ever drive innovation? Everyone will revert to the BARE MINIMUM EFFORT just to keep their job once they realize that effort and performance are rewarded equally with laziness as everyone knows its much easier to just be lazy.
sandybestdog is just a confused youngster. He complains that it is so hard to get ahead in life working jobs such as "a pizza delivery driver".
Well, no f@cking shit. Welcome to the real world sandy. Also, please point out any country under any form of government, where you will have a high standard of living doing jobs like that.
This country is full of opportunity if you will get off your ass and go get it.
If you are lazy, stupid or talentless, then you are probably going to be left behind. But fortunately, in the US, due to capitalism, even our lazy/stupid/talentless folks live a better/richer life than 85+% of the people that make up the rest of the planet.
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Well, no f@cking shit. Welcome to the real world sandy. Also, please point out any country under any form of government, where you will have a high standard of living doing jobs like that.
This country is full of opportunity if you will get off your ass and go get it.
If you are lazy, stupid or talentless, then you are probably going to be left behind. But fortunately, in the US, due to capitalism, even our lazy/stupid/talentless folks live a better/richer life than 85+% of the people that make up the rest of the planet. [/B]