"If there were no God, there would be no atheists

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Why not get yourself up to date ...

I should get myself up to date on a definition?? I think you not only suffer from dementia in not remembering my name after constant contact for close to 2 years, but you contracted Vhehn atheism nihilism disease my dear Deity of Atheism as well. Next stop you meet the grim reaper by way of suicide.
 
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The irreducible principle, the first cause cannot be god . It would have to be existence.
Nothing exists without existence .
This is the gibberish you think profound?
Fine, post a picture of an "existence"
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If you require pictures and can only understand by pictures, maybe you should first go find yourself a picture of the original "gibberish"....
"God doesn't exist in time and space ......"


Sorry but your butchering of jficquette's assertion changes it's meaning to the point that all it has in common with the original is you're both using letters of the English alphabet.

In your case you confuse an abstract idea with an object or Force.

pretty sad really
 
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I should get myself up to date on a definition?? I think you not only suffer from dementia in not remembering my name after constant contact for close to 2 years, but you contracted Vhehn atheism nihilism disease my dear Deity of Atheism as well. Next stop you meet the grim reaper by way of suicide.



You don't know the definition, that much is clear.
The Cosmological argument is by definition about first cause, according to Aristotle and Plato, who rank rather more highly than anything you can offer. Nothing to do with a creator or god. .
So your incorrect comment that "By definition in the cosmological argument God and First Cause are the same thing." is just plain wrong.

Only by extension, not definition is the Cosmological argument about your imaginary universe creating friend.

On the other matter about your name , you obviously haven't noticed it is VERY forgettable and of little importance to me.
Also, If you understood what you are saying, by...."constant contact for close to 2 years" , you'd know how deluded about that you are , as in your religious fantasies too.
Very few exchanges on ET do not constitute “constant contact” . lol.

One thing I do realize from the posts you make which I have had the misfortune to stumble upon now and again in other threads, is the nasty racist and religious bigotry you display along with obvious serious problems of megalomania, now reaching the point where you believe you can determine someone’s demise.
Fortunately for other people, should such psychosis get completely out of hand , you are subject to a secular democratic system of law under which both you and your god are obliged to conform.

Anyway go do your Cosmological homework BernardDickard, a little learning may ease your severe prejudices and hatred.
 
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Sorry but your butchering of jficquette's assertion changes it's meaning to the point that all it has in common with the original is you're both using letters of the English alphabet.

Ok, then here it is in all its original glory...

Quote from jficquette:
"God doesn't exist in time and space so the idea of "Before" is not applicable relative to our frame of reference. "

Now my question to you remains, if you require pictures and can only understand by pictures, how come you DO want pictures of "existence"....but DON'T want pictures of "God doesn't exist in time and space" .
Afterall, that was the original statement and falls under your ridiculous "This is the gibberish you think profound?".. response.

A case of double standard religious blinkers?. Any pious remark goes unchallenged, but any challenge attracts your sanctimonious remarks.

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In your case you confuse an abstract idea with an object or Force.
Late again. The confusion is already clear . jficquette has already described the fantasy abstract idea and your'e fantasizing in a pretence that abstract idea, can actually exist without the reality of existence.
 
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One thing I do realize from the posts you make which I have had the misfortune to stumble upon now and again in other threads, is the nasty racist and religious bigotry you display along with obvious serious problems of megalomania, now reaching the point where you believe you can determine someone’s demise.
Fortunately for other people, should such psychosis get completely out of hand , you are subject to a secular democratic system of law under which both you and your god are obliged to conform.

You misunderstood Stu. I realized that you are now suffering from a serious case of dementia plus you have other mental issues as I have made clear so I was just trying to be helpful to you by suggesting that as an atheist you have a readily available remedy for all of your heath issues by committing suicide.

Feel free to put me on your ignore list if I have offended you Stu, and you no longer want to see the nasty megalomaniac rascist and religious bigotry that I post. If we don't communicate again then I wish you a pleasant stay in Hell for eternity after you meet the grim reaper for atheists only of course!
 
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Ok, then here it is in all its original glory...

Quote from jficquette:
"God doesn't exist in time and space so the idea of "Before" is not applicable relative to our frame of reference. "

Now my question to you remains, if you require pictures and can only understand by pictures, how come you DO want pictures of "existence"....but DON'T want pictures of "God doesn't exist in time and space" .
Afterall, that was the original statement and falls under your ridiculous "This is the gibberish you think profound?".. response.

A case of double standard religious blinkers?. Any pious remark goes unchallenged, but any challenge attracts your sanctimonious remarks.


Late again. The confusion is already clear . jficquette has already described the fantasy abstract idea and your'e fantasizing in a pretence that abstract idea, can actually exist without the reality of existence.

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The irreducible principle, the first cause cannot be god . It would have to be existence.
Nothing exists without existence .
Nice try, like I said before which you fail to grasp is your statement and jf's are wholly unrelated.

Please do move on you are making an ass out of yourself.
 
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Nice try, like I said before which you fail to grasp is your statement and jf's are wholly unrelated.


You're right there, they are unrelated. Mine's backed up in the reality of existence.
Keep trying though and look where a religious belief can take you. Right into the full on purple hate of religous zealotry BernardPilchards displays..
 
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12-10-09 06:10 AM

You theist guys really are stuffed.
outside of ad hominem or absurdity
it's perfectly obvious no argument exists for you to produce as evidence for your shared imaginary God friend.


...

One thing I do realize from the posts you make which I have had the misfortune to stumble upon now and again in other threads, is the nasty racist and religious bigotry you display along with obvious serious problems of megalomania, now reaching the point where you believe you can determine someone’s demise.
Fortunately for other people, should such psychosis get completely out of hand , you are subject to a secular democratic system of law under which both you and your god are obliged to conform.

Anyway go do your Cosmological homework BernardDickard, a little learning may ease your severe prejudices and hatred.


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You theist guys really are stuffed.
outside of ad hominem or absurdity it's perfectly obvious no argument exists for you to produce as evidence for your shared imaginary God friend.
 
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