"If there were no God, there would be no atheists
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"Whether conceptually , ontologically ,actually, or obviously, everything needs existence to exist.
Whether conceptually , ontologically ,actually, or obviously, God would need existence to exist."
God is existence, therefore God does not need an external existence to exist upon...
"Heâs clearly there, present in your thoughts as God+1."
God+1 is your absurdity.
God is the greatest, so adding +1 to Gilbert (apparently Gilbert can be added to ((He---Gilbert---can always contain +1 greater than God.)) ) demonstrates Gilbert is not the greatest.
God cannot be contained, but Gilbert can contain +1 greater than God?
More absurdity.
It's a bit like you taking a magic marker and drawing a number +1 on your forehead and parading around saying "I am greater than I was before I drew the +1 on my forehead."
When it comes to being daft, you take and eat the cake...
Whether conceptually , ontologically ,actually, or obviously, God would need existence to exist."
God is existence, therefore God does not need an external existence to exist upon...
"Heâs clearly there, present in your thoughts as God+1."
God+1 is your absurdity.
God is the greatest, so adding +1 to Gilbert (apparently Gilbert can be added to ((He---Gilbert---can always contain +1 greater than God.)) ) demonstrates Gilbert is not the greatest.
God cannot be contained, but Gilbert can contain +1 greater than God?
More absurdity.
It's a bit like you taking a magic marker and drawing a number +1 on your forehead and parading around saying "I am greater than I was before I drew the +1 on my forehead."
When it comes to being daft, you take and eat the cake...
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Whether conceptually , ontologically ,actually, or obviously, everything needs existence to exist.
Whether conceptually , ontologically ,actually, or obviously, God would need existence to exist.
In this context there is no logical definition for the greatest being God. Existence trumps God.
God is not a logical definition. It's simply absurd to say it is.
If God were a logical definition then it is no more absurd to say Gilbert is a logical definition.
God cannot be the greatest, for whatever you say the greatest is , there is always the prospect for one greater.
To say the greatest contains everything is a nonsensical statement. Conceptually , ontologically, actually, or obviously a container does not contain itself.
If a container can contain itself, then so can Gilbert , only He can always contain +1 greater than God.
Container Gilbert would also contain container God.
Stuck in two dimensional thinking? By the sound of things you've still to reach 1 dimensional.
However your unsolicited reference to Gilbert suggests youâre making some kind of progress.
Heâs clearly there, present in your thoughts as God+1.
Praise be!
If I wasn't trying to follow the teaching of Jesus, I would never have taken the time to respond to you...
I think that you didn't understand me. What are you ? Even the greatest sword need a spirit to handle it... And the only way to have a pure spirit, is to love... Does your mind love ?
Do you see, your rational thinking can only be lead by a clean heart... And emotions, are the expressions of this heart. You don't educate yourself by exploring reality... You educate yourself by watching it with your heart, he will know, what you need to look... and he will help your mind to understand it...
Furthermore, mind is weak without a clean heart. Rational thinker can't admitt what they don't know. It's a sign of weakness for them...
Peace,
I didn't want to say rational thinker... I would say stupid thinker...
A rational thinker will always admitt what he doesn't know, or understand...
I didn't want to say rational thinker... I would say stupid thinker...
A rational thinker will always admitt what he doesn't know, or understand...
If "God was existence" the word existence wouldn't need to exist.
...and God is yours before that.
That is your absurdity. I am not claiming Gilbert is the greatest. You are claiming God is when it is very clear, that is absurd.
You start the daftness. You are making daft claims of God.
Gilbert is exactly the same as God only +1 more.
Except for that 1 thing, you are naming God daft yourself by calling Gilbert such.
Any claim you make for God there is always +1 claim more. God cannot be the greatest as Gilbert is greater.
None knows who is God, you can only watch is beauty all around you and feel his love.
That's the problem, He doesn't ask us to be smarter than we are... only free! And all loving ( love can only be free... )
That's the problem, He doesn't ask us to be smarter than we are... only free! And all loving ( love can only be free... )
Seems you spend an extra-ordinary amount of time on it and explaining your non belief in God.
If "God was existence" the word existence wouldn't need to exist.
Is there really any need to explain the logical flaws in the statement above?
Let's say God actually is existence, a logical possibility.
Let's say that an atheist doesn't think God is existence, another logical possibility.
So why would that negate the need for the word existence, to exist?
Too funny...
Is there really any need to explain the logical flaws in the statement above?
Let's say God actually is existence, a logical possibility.
Let's say that an atheist doesn't think God is existence, another logical possibility.
So why would that negate the need for the word existence, to exist?
Too funny...
You can of course dance around chasing your own tail all you like but God does not spell nor mean Existence.
Is there really any need to explain the logical flaws in your statement "God is existence"?
So why the word and meaning for God then, when the word and meaning of Existence exists and is separately defined ?