"If there were no God, there would be no atheists

Quote from stu:

...maybe a lobotomy may help in your case, who can tell...
lobotomy? Never heard of it. What kind of beer is that anyway?
 
Quote from kut2k2:

Individual scientists may be arrogant or flawed in other ways but the scientific community has the methods to weed out emotionalism form the final conclusions.

Yeah sure it does.
AGW hysteria anyone?
 
Quote from kut2k2:

You see, folks, this is the real deal.

The aptly named piker confuses his sophistry for critical thinking.

Atheists don't have to pretend that no evidence exists that proves "God" exists when the pikers of the world can't supply any. To make matters much worse, they pretend that they have such evidence but consider providing it to atheists as "casting pearls before swine".

Arrogance and stupidity in one package. How efficient of you, piker! :D

I see you conveniently ran away from positing conditions that would prove your hypothesis null or void.

How quaint?
 
Quote from Gabfly1:

Which fringe has historically been behind mankind's most horrific atrocities?

As I recall the three greatest monsters of the twentieth century were all atheists, Hitler, Mao Tse-Tung, and Stalin.

Christianity has long given up its sway in the Western world. Secular Atheism is the philosophy that reigns supreme in the Western world now.
 
Quote from Kassz007:

A talking dog lives in my closet. He's invisible and undetectable, but I know he is there. I don't need to provide any evidence of his existence. In fact, I have decided that since you can't prove that the invisible, undetectable talking dog living in my closet is not real, I conclude that the talking dog does indeed exist. I will also use this fact in every discussion related to whether or not the talking dog in my closet exists.

Fine just don't use him as a tax deduction moron.
 
Quote from stu:

Now you may want to go Bernard Roberts road...

At least show us that you pay attention Stu by at least getting my name right after communicating with me over several dozen posts in period of about 2 years. My name is Bernard Richards -- not Bernard Roberts.

I think your atheism is slowly causing dementia in your brain!
 
Quote from vhehn:

we only ask that you be intellectually honest and follow the evidence where ever it leads. is that so hard?

No problem, except you probably think you should be privy to the evidence without your individual effort.

keep dreaming
 
Quote from BernardRichards:

As I recall the three greatest monsters of the twentieth century were all atheists, Hitler, Mao Tse-Tung, and Stalin.

Christianity has long given up its sway in the Western world. Secular Atheism is the philosophy that reigns supreme in the Western world now.
at least try to get your facts right. hitler was a catholic christian.

http://nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
Hitler's Christianity

To deny the influence of Christianity on Hitler and its role in World War II, means that you must ignore history and forever bar yourself from understanding the source of German anti-Semitism and how the WWII atrocities occurred.

By using historical evidence of Hitler's and his henchmen's own words, this section aims to show how mixing religion with politics can cause conflicts, not only against religion but against government and its people. This site, in no way, condones Nazism, Neo-Nazism, fascist governments, or anti-Semitism, but instead, warns against them.

by Jim Walker

[The German words, "Gott Mit Uns" means God With Us and appeared on many Nazi soldiers belt buckles during WWII. To see the buckle, click here.]







Hitler's religious beliefs and fanaticism (quotes from Mein Kampf)
Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself.
 
Quote from stu:



The irreducible principle, the first cause cannot be god . It would have to be existence.
Nothing exists without existence .

This is the gibberish you think profound?
 
Existence could not be one aspect of God?

Any argument to back that up?

Quote from stu:

Then God had no time to exist.
Without existence, nothing exists . Now you may want to go Bernard Roberts road into blind ranting sophistry, and then blame me for being a sophist. That's the usual religious response.

But maybe you have something less absurd to say. I'm an eternal optimist.
Nevertheless, eternity needs existence and so would god.

The irreducible principle, the first cause cannot be god . It would have to be existence.
Nothing exists without existence .
 
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