If anyone you care about has severe refractory depression problems, HERE IS THE CURE:

[Rearden Metal]

TraderNik & Dr. Z, thanx for the encouragement.

Dr., by reading through this thread (or this one ) you'd know that Ibogaine is in no way relevant. At no point did I ever have an 'opiate addiction problem'. Daily opioid intake is not the problem, but rather the <b>solution</b> for those suffering refractory depression.


"Ask an anesthestiologist what they use bube for."

They don't. At least not in the U.S.
At this point, the one legal application for bupe is opiate detox & maintenance. Nothing else.

 

[acronym]

Thats fantastic. Does this still apply though, from the "What bugs you" thread.
"What annoys me the most is that I could list 10,000 things, and still not be done.

Everything fucking annoys me."


I realise this is a work in progress, but have you noticed a difference in general annoyance levels? In terms of SRD, Do things still annoy you across the board , and you just feel better about them, or have some of those annoyances left the building?

 

[Rearden Metal]

No, everything still annoys me. Seriously, watching 'The Aviator', or just reading about Howard Hughes provides major insight into my personality. Just substitute temperature for germs. When I first saw that movie, I found myself pausing it every 30 seconds to write down another striking parallel between Hughes (an opiate addict, btw) and I.

If anything, at my worst moments of depression (before obtaining the proper medication), I'd get <b>less</b> annoyed at little things, because it didn't really matter as I wasn't planning on sticking around for long anyways.

Quote from acronym:

Thats fantastic. Does this still apply though, from the "What bugs you" thread.
"What annoys me the most is that I could list 10,000 things, and still not be done.

Everything fucking annoys me."


I realise this is a work in progress, but have you noticed a difference in general annoyance levels? In terms of SRD, Do things still annoy you across the board , and you just feel better about them, or have some of those annoyances left the building?

 

[Dr. Zhivodka]

Ah ...for depression. I didn't read the thread.

My bad.

As for bube not being used by anesthesiologist...that's simply wrong. I can't speak for all of them of course, but the one that sleeps with me every night does. She uses it to prolong nerve blocks and other cool stuff as bube is a goofy drug with very strange properties. (i.e. both tagonist/antagonist, this is why it works, (for the short term!) with oppiate users))

I'm sure that the mix/dosage or the method of delivery, sublingual as opposed to intravenous is altered a bit to make it "legal" in a non-surgical setting.

At any rate ...good luck man.

All my best.
Dr. Z

Quote from Rearden Metal:

TraderNik & Dr. Z, thanx for the encouragement.

Dr., by reading through this thread (or this one ) you'd know that Ibogaine is in no way relevant. At no point did I ever have an 'opiate addiction problem'. Daily opioid intake is not the problem, but rather the <b>solution</b> for those suffering refractory depression.


"Ask an anesthestiologist what they use bube for."

They don't. At least not in the U.S.
At this point, the one legal application for bupe is opiate detox & maintenance. Nothing else.

 

[JohnnyK]

I'm here to learn. Can someone please explain the difference between opiates and endorphins?

JohnnyK

 

[JohnnyK]

"There is no duty we so much underrate as the duty of being happy.

By being happy, we sow anonymous benefits upon the world."

>>~Robert Louis Stevenson~

 

[Optionpro007]

Quote from JohnnyK:

I'm here to learn. Can someone please explain the difference between opiates and endorphins?

JohnnyK

Opiates:

<img src=http://www.compufort.com/users/bjbears/images/opiates.gif>


endorphins:


<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/DulcisCruciatus/chocolate_releases_endorphins_endorphins_make_you_happy.jpg>

 

[JohnnyK]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:



Threads become what they will, and one possible direction offered in this thread is the recovery from depression via something other than drug addiction and chemical dependency.

High Z,

Has starting new threads worked for you yet?

JohnnyK

 

[JohnnyK]

Thanks optionpro,

I guess that brings up another question: What chemicals are induced by sex, and are these in any way similar to opiates?


I should add from experience: When massage is done exceptionally, and recieved exceptionally, it can be a better-than-sex experience in it's own way. Few people have been massaged for more than 3 or 4 hours like I have, so there's no way to describe it to them. But a good massage can put me in an especially good mood lasting for days, gradually returning to status quo after a couple weeks.

JohnnyK

 

[Optionpro007]

The massage idea for several hours sound great !

Where can I get great massages for 4 hours by a "Geisha" type woman. Only in the far east ?

Or is there a place in the US. I would move there.....

Quote from JohnnyK:

Thanks optionpro,

I guess that brings up another question: What chemicals are induced by sex, and are these in any way similar to opiates?


I should add from experience: When massage is done exceptionally, and recieved exceptionally, it can be a better-than-sex experience in it's own way. Few people have been massaged for more than 3 or 4 hours like I have, so there's no way to describe it to them. But a good massage can put me in an especially good mood lasting for days, gradually returning to status quo after a couple weeks.

JohnnyK