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They lost 25 bombers in 1578 missions

What other units with over 1,500 missions loss 25 bombers or less ?

Not every mission they did was escort, they did some ground attack. They have about 150 ground kills, you don't do that flying escort. Do a little reading before you post. I don't have data but i'm willing to bet there were other units with similiar ecords, especially in 1945 and especially given that the myth of 'never lost a bomber' was so widely distributed. The USAF rarely did fighter sweeps, they were all about ground attack in one way or another.

Yes do fight on in your ignorant ways, someone from the black panthers must have sent you and the droolmonkey RCG over over.
 
Apples to oranges.The Tuskegee Airmen were not attack dogs,their job was to protect bombers from the attack dogs.

They had 112 aerial victories while escorting, the 352 was also an ecort wing they managed 519 aerial victories escorting. You really don't mind posting and not knowing much do you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/352d_Fighter_Group

The 352d Fighter Group was one of the most highly decorated USAAF Fighter Groups in World War II, producing many leading aces of the war. The 352d was composed of three squadrons: (the 328th, 486th and 487th Fighter Squadrons). Once deployed to the European Theater of Operations (ETO), the group was eventually headquartered in Bodney, England before being forward deployed to Belgium. It performed a variety of missions for the Eighth Air Force, but predominantly served as bomber escort. After the war the unit was transferred to the District of Columbia Air National Guard and redesignated the 113th Fighter Group.
 
Sorry, I meant the B-17. I remember the Memphis Belle was not a B-29 and went to look it up. B-17 are what the Red Tails protected.

Sorry, the 17 is not what 'saved' the day. I would respond to correct your inaccuracy but I'm getting tired of correcting dumb lefties as it is like trying educate a golden retriever.
 
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Sorry, the 17 is not what 'saved' the day. I would respond to correct your inaccuracy but I'm getting tired of correcting dumb lefties as it is like trying educate a golden retriever.

I'm sure it had something to do with Germans and the great white race in your convoluted mind:D
 
I have avoided this thread.

The reason for that avoidance is that I saw someone being interviewed on television say "without the Tuskegee Airman the United States would have lost WWII".

That is such a ridiculous and incredible assertion that I realized that the movie was going to be some kind of propaganda statement and that any subsequent ET threads would devolve into a cesspool of rascism claims, inaccurate facts about the war etc.

But I finally broke down and took a look today. It literally made my stomach sour with disgust and revulsion.

I see Lucrum (and a few others), as usual replying simply, factually and persistently in the face of really monstrous stuff being said by the usual purveyors of dishonestly. AK-47 really outdoes himself here with low behavior.

The interchange (arguing, lol) with liberals on ET I enjoy and I even like and respect some of the liberal guys personally but the tiny percentage of them here that are real degenerates drags the whole discourse down to gutter level.

Lets see, I served in the 335th in the 70s. The 335th is part of the 4th Fighter Group and started out as one of the Eagle Squadrons. They were appropriated by the US military and became a bomber escort squadron out of Debden UK, first in P-47s and later P-51s. I've met Don Blakeslee and a few others at 4th Fighter Group reunions and have done some volunteer work on Mustang restorations. I know a thing or two about fighter escort work, the 8th AF and fighter aces.

The Tuskegee Airman did a good job and their contribution to the war effort helped the country recognize african-americans as being capable human beings willing to risk their lives for their country. But distorting that contribution into something that "saved the country" is really unspeakable, a slight to everyone who manned a bomber or flew a fighter in a bomber escort mission.

I won't be seeing the movie.

I would be pissed if I was a WWII fighter pilot not in the Tuskegee group.

When I saw that Obama ordered a flyover for this movie I was reminded how important symbolism is to the left. Tuskegee was of symbolic importance mostly. It is plainly obvious when you look at the numbers of aircraft involved. The one impactful accomplishment was to help open up the military to blacks. As grown ups we can appreciate that alone is good enough, but that's not good enough for others.

So why do they need to lie and exaggerate? Why the disregard for realism? I understand Lucas, he hates most of America and he'll do anything to stab at it. RCG can't argue with you on the basis of reasons or facts, he quickly moves on to ad hominens, but then of all things he glibly pretends to be intellectually and morally superior. This behavior is unfortunatly typical, a disturbing echo of the old communist disdain for intellectuals.
 
I'm sure it had something to do with Germans and the great white race in your convoluted mind

I'm sure that what you are sure of isn't worth shit. :D
 
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Sorry, the 17 is not what 'saved' the day. I would respond to correct your inaccuracy but I'm getting tired of correcting dumb lefties as it is like trying educate a golden retriever.

Whatever you say "88":D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88_(number)#As_a_Neo-Nazi_symbol

Neo-Nazis use the number 88 as a code to represent the slogan Heil Hitler.[3] The letter H is eighth in the alphabet, so 88 is meant to stand for HH. The number is sometimes used in combination with the number 14 (e.g. 1488 or 14/88). In this context, the number 14 stands for the "Fourteen Words", which is a white nationalist slogan created by convicted terrorist David Lane. Examples of usage include: the song "88 rock'n'roll band" by the neo-Nazi band Landser, and the names of the groups Column 88, Unit 88, White Legion 88 and Barselc88. Holocaust museum shooter James von Brunn often signed his writings as "JVB-88."
 
Right on, fucking dumbass


The Revolutionary Communist Group (RCG) is a Marxist-Leninist political organisation based in the United Kingdom which is avowedly socialist and communist in nature. Developing in the early 1970s, the RCG grew out of the "Revolutionary Opposition" faction of the International Socialists (IS), (forerunners of the Socialist Workers Party), being strongly influenced by the politics of Roy Tearse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Communist_Group_(UK)
 
OOOO, now he is cussing at me

Sorry I outed you 88, please don't be angry

Just change your handle and come back


Angry? How so?

You are the outed one, it took me 30 seconds to find your 'number' comrade. Bet it took you a week to come up with that 88 garbage.
 
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