Health Care Reform...Sound off here, An ET Roundtable.

Helath Care Reform

  • Leave it alone, things are fine.

    Votes: 6 10.3%
  • Pass current reform bill.

    Votes: 12 20.7%
  • We need reform, but write a new bill.

    Votes: 36 62.1%
  • Who cares, I pay cash when I'm sick.

    Votes: 4 6.9%

  • Total voters
    58
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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;



Welfare
welfare n. 1. health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being. [



Welfare in today's context also means organized efforts on the part of public or private organizations to benefit the poor, or simply public assistance. This is not the meaning of the word as used in the Constitution.


Btw,the second quote sounds like an opinion

Your delusions are on display. the govt does not owe you health , happiness or prosperity only that it should refrain from impeding you nor compelling others in your pursuit of such conditions.
 
Quote from PiggyBank:

Your interpretation that it means we are all to foot the bill for the uninsured sounds like an opinion. This site was also up long before this debate began, and I read this exact def like 2 years ago and it is the same today.

What about the other issue?

When the Constitution says that the Congress is to provide for the general welfare of the country,and the definition of welfare includes health and well being it doesn't get any clearer then that imo
 
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When the Constitution says that the Congress is to provide for the general welfare of the country,and the definition of welfare includes health and well being it doesn't get any clearer then that imo

Are you going to address the other issue or be a coward?
 
Quote from Index piker:

Your delusions are on display. the govt does not owe you health , happiness or prosperity only that it should refrain from impeding you nor compelling others in your pursuit of such conditions.


The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare( welfare n. 1. health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being.) of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

look up the word provide if you need to
 
Quote from Index piker:

Go ahead for Christ's sake.

If you can't find someone to value it insure yourself.

Medical bills is the # 1 cause of Bankruptcy,no thanks

When everybody has to self insure ,I will.As long as I and millions of others are being discriminated against,I will vote for people who will stop the discrimination
 
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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare( welfare n. 1. health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being.) of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

look up the word provide if you need to

Why do you suppose they only put promote in the preamble when directly referencing the blessings of liberty to ourselves but use provide when it references the entity of the United States in your misapplied quote ?
 
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Medical bills is the # 1 cause of Bankruptcy,no thanks

When everybody has to self insure ,I will.As long as I and millions of others are being discriminated against,I will vote for people who will stop the discrimination

No one is discriminating against you so save your false indignation.

Once again it boils down to YOU wanting to force others to pay for your wants.

Some people just might call that selfish & greedy.
 
Quote from Index piker:

Why do you suppose they only put promote in the preamble when directly referencing the blessings of liberty to ourselves but use provide when it references the entity of the United States in your misapplied quote ?

Its quite clear that the Congress is to provide the general welfare to the country,and the definition of welfare includes health and well being.Those are the words of the Constitution,end of story
 
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Its quite clear that the Congress is to provide the general welfare to the country,and the definition of welfare includes health and well being.Those are the words of the Constitution,end of story

The general welfare is not promoted or provided by stealing from your cohorts just because you fweel you deserve it.
 
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