Hawking: God did not create Universe

[dbphoenix]

exactly... these leftists have zero integrity and they give atheism a bad name.

Then there's jem, who has zero integrity and gives Christians a bad name.

Fair's fair.

 

[futurecurrents]

The entire agenda of the Godless left is predicated on changing names, redefining words, pretending things don't exist, and most importantly, attempting to ridicule into silence anyone who dissents.

Take the word science, for instance. Sci-ence means 'to know'. Well, that doesn't work out to well for the left, because it allows religion to speak. So lets just redefine the word. By magic, it now means that which is known by physical evidence. Viola! Cut out the religionists! How easy. Similar to the way homosexuality is no longer homosexuality. It's now gay. Helps the cause to rename or redefine.
Now do you see why religion is not science? It should be obvious. Because they redefined the word science. How convenient.

But then how to deal with the physical evidence and physical laws? How do they put one over on the people after they've redefined the word? Answer: same way they do in other political narratives. Pretend that anything that refutes their theories just doesn't exist. Hide the decline, anyone?
Or take race as an example. There are literally scores of examples in the last year alone of mobs of blacks targeting and beating the hell out of whites, and for no other reason than the victim was white. But it's hidden from all but alternative media and the only thing we see are cases where a cop shoots a black person while the black person was committing a crime, and we told to believe that the cop is a racist. They'll go so far as to continue with the 'hands up, don't shoot' narrative even when anyone who follows the issue knows that's nothing but a lie.
As so it is with the physical evidence and laws that refute the entire creation/evolution agenda of the left. It's not one bit different. Just pretend the inviolate laws of physics don't exist when they get in the way of the narrative. First cause, thermodynamics, probabilities-----never you mind. Just listen to what 'all scientists agree on', even if it's contradictory to their new and improved definition of the word science itself.

The left's m.o. is just one giant game of the emperor has no clothes. It's all predicated on people being browbeaten into submission to accept the narrative or made to feel like a kook.

Too bad it works on so many, but to the left's everlasting chagrin, there is always someone who will step up and say that the emperor has no clothes.

Strike that. THIS is the dumbest bunch of words I've read in a long time.

Just when I think righties can't get any stupider, one comes along to set a new record. Truly amazing.

 

[jem]

note... notice stu's misrepresentation about gravity.

Hawking states gravity can be the designer... in his top down theory of cosmology.
in which because there are multiverses... and you are in the universe with gravity... it is sort of like gravity created your universe.

Gravity as creator is subset of the multiverse prong.

 

[jem]

oh looks one of the band of sock puppets coming out with more of his trademark douche comments.

Then there's jem, who has zero integrity and gives Christians a bad name.

Fair's fair.

 

[dbphoenix]

that is a compliment from a the jerk who goes running around the forum pasting anti christian articles from salon and then tries to deny he is a bigotted anti christian leftist.

I don't run.

I amble.

 

[stu]

And the difference is? LOL

Do those meanings you conjured up not mean the same as what i said in context?

And changing my quote. Nice touch. Breaking the rule of et to attempt to make a point. No regard for rules here, there, or anywhere, right? Hide the decline truth by any means necessary?

Typical of your ilk.

I didn't alter any words in your quote or any context of it.
I selected one aspect from the rambling nonsense that it is. No rules broken. You have a bizarre idea of truth. Apparently it is only what you think it should be.

And no, obviously the meaning 'to separate' is not the same meaning as 'to know' in context or otherwise.

What is in context is you did what you were name calling others to have done. You used a redefined meaning of the word science as opposed to it's original one. Oh ye hypocrite!

But it's ok and understood. Like Jem you're angry and just want lash out against science whatever its meaning, and people generally, in simply hating any stuff that has or does discover no need for your God.

 

[stu]

note... notice stu's misrepresentation about gravity.

Hawking states gravity can be the designer... in his top down theory of cosmology.
in which because there are multiverses... and you are in the universe with gravity... it is sort of like gravity created your universe.

Gravity as creator is subset of the multiverse prong.

That's math. That's physics. That's science.

"the constants of our standard model are very finely tuned to over 20 decimal places"

That's a lie. That's dishonest. That's you.

 

[stu]

I don't run.

I amble.

nice

 

[artemstreb]

i applaud reason and scarefull scrutiny of all IDEA

man mind created science and religion. one invite scrutiny,the other eschew

 

[jem]

if you even understood the paper I presented from hawking in previous threads... you would understand that you are an ignorant moron.

you would also know that the the constants of the standard are so finely tuned (at least 2O decimal places) they were able to find the higgs boson at the LHC...



but I will make this simple with a quote from Hawking... from wikipedia...
this quote shows you to be a lying ass troll moron jerkoff in this universe and every other.

" As Stephen Hawking has noted, "The laws of science, as we know them at present, contain many fundamental numbers, like the size of the electric charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the proton and the electron. ... The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life."[9]"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe

That's math. That's physics. That's science.



That's a lie. That's dishonest. That's you.