Quote from Gabfly1:
Has anyone noticed how a lot of Americans are behaving like unruly schoolchildren with a substiture teacher? One they simply refuse to take seriously? Of course, I refer to the general disregard for the American Presidency. Cases in point include the"birthers." Then there is the Tea Party, which didn't exist during Bush's spending frenzy while cutting taxes for the rich. Where was the outcry on behalf of future generations then? And then there are the growingly flagrant "open carry" heroes. The list goes on.
I find it stunning that these so-called "Americans" essentially disregard Obama's presidency despite the fact that he was voted in decisively, and was not effectively appointed by the Supreme Court. Stunning. I do not recall any other president being so openly and generally tweaked, regardless of political party. I wonder why that is.
In other news, racism seems to be alive and well.
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And it's not the least bit surprising that Lucrum and his ilk would call for censorship of your posts. Once again, I never see them call for censorship of
non-American conservatives. Which tells me two things: they wallow in hypocrisy, and they can't handle the truth.
Quote from Ivanovich:
Perhaps, but this is no different than all the Bush haters during the last President's term. All those "he's not OUR President" comments and the articles on how 50M people can be so dumb as to vote him in twice, etc.
No different than now.
Yes it is. Mainstream opposers to Bush were calling for his impeachment. Opposers to Obama, until recently, were hinting at assassination; even some commentators on TV like Glenn Beck were hinting at armed rebellion. Go ahead, show the "same thing" during the Bush years. Good luck.
Quote from RCG Trader:
Nixon-disgraced the Presidency.
Carter-ruined the Nation.
Reagan-destroyed the poor with Reaganomics.
Bush I--did not finish the job in Iraq
Clinton--blow job in the oval office
Bush II--well, you name it, he did it.
Obama--?? Whatever it is to about half the nation he will suck.
This President will do no worse than the last..........
"Nixon-disgraced the Presidency." Very true.
"Carter-ruined the Nation." How? He screwed up on Iran; that hardly "ruined" the USA.
"Reagan-destroyed the poor with Reaganomics." No, he destroyed the middle class and increased the poor.
"Bush I--did not finish the job in Iraq" Among other things (like doubling the debt, going back on his no-new-taxes pledge, etc.)
"Clinton--blow job in the oval office" Yeah this is the worst thing that can be said about Clinton from the right. Oh lordy lordy. Clinton was a damn fine Republican president. Too bad he couldn't act like a damn fine Democratic president.
"Bush II--well, you name it, he did it." If by "it" you mean "something awful", I couldn't agree more.
"This President will do no worse than the last." That's a given. Even my dog could do a better job than Bush/Cheney. For starters, my dog doesn't start unnecessary wars.
Quote from RCG Trader:
It is less flawed than any other. So it is absolutely a plus for the USA.
Ignorance is bliss. You know almost nothing about other democratic countries yet you automatically assume that their electoral systems are substandard to the USA.
Fact: our Electoral College is an absolute abomination. It bears approximately the same relationship to a truly democratically elected President that Frankenstein's monster bears to an actual human being. All you have to do is look at 2000, when Al Gore won the popular vote outright (ala Obama) but did not become the President.
Quote from Ivanovich:
But you're blaming the challenge of legitimacy on racism? If he were white, but had family ties born in France and was named President Pierre La Rogue, you don't think people who hated him would question the legitimacy? Especially if President Pierre refused to show a birth certificate?
Quote from Ivanovich:
I'm not a birther. I don't think there's any legitimate argument regarding Obama's being born in the US. My point was, and you'd get this if you weren't always so combative, that if a French named man with the aforementioned credentials (or lack of them) was named President , the SAME issues would be present.
Trying to have it both ways? If you are not a birther then why bring up an analogy where some hypothetical French candidate
"refused to show a birth certificate?"
Obama has shown his birth certificate. Repeatedly. So your analogy completely falls apart. Or were you trying to have it both ways (plant the idea that Obama's birth is suspect, but don't call you a birther for saying so)?