Gun control is about Urban vs Rural areas

Quote from 377OHMS:

Exactly.

Amazing how the left thinks the right is so defeated that it should just lay down and stop breathing.

I'm also amazed by how angry many on the left still are even after their man was reelected and they won other races around the country. Instead of settling down and trying to fix the economic mess they've doubled-down on class warfare and want to silence any forms of conservative commentary by literally closing down Fox News etc.

I know Obama won handily but it wasn't a landslide and I don't think it was a mandate, not even close.
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Obama only lost one swing state. That is a landslide in electoral college. If compare it to W where he "won" by one state Florida, and then 2004 in Ohio that is a soul crushing defeat for the other party.
 
Quote from IShopAtPublix:

I put "BIG" modifier in front of "city" for a reason. You compare NYC to Chicago, LA, etc. not to a "city" of 250,000. NYC is head and shoulders above Chicago and LA, for one good reason
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The list I got those stats from INCLUDED all the major US cities.
Your statement was wrong PERIOD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
- NYPD is mean and VERY good at what it does.
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I wonder if the 9 innocent bystanders shot by the NYPD recently would agree.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248125&perpage=10&pagenumber=1
To solve the country's gun problem you do the following:
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We don't have a "gun problem". We have a fucked up, stupid, crazy, evil people problem.

1)You can own a shotgun for your home protection ONLY provided you are not a felon, psycho, etc.
2)Concealed carry and open carry are banned
3)Hand guns are banned, assault rifles are banned

As to how you get the guns out of the system, you buy them back. You say "you have 3 months to either sell it for a good price or go to jail at the end of the period". Vast majority will sell them back, the ones that wont would be a lot easier to deal with later. Gun crime would collapse in Chicago and everywhere else.
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Do you have ANY facts to back up these suggestions of yours? ANY?
How do you guys come up with these utterly arbitrary limits anyway?
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Is there a full moon or something bringing these people out?

Who the fuck are you to decide what i can own?

These are the same fools who criticize republicans for wanting to stick their nose in the bedroom. All I see is liberals telling us what to do , what to eat, what to smoke, who to hire, who to lend money to, etc. Now they actually want to tell us how to defend our homes.

I'm on the far side of fed up. Let's get those secession petition sout again.
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This.

IShoTatpublix - criminals don't follow the laws, genius. Ban open carry and handguns? Thugs will buy handguns on the blackmarket and carry them on the street. Gun control does nothing to stop criminals from owning weapons!!!
 
Quote from IShopAtPublix:

"You people" lost a federal election recently and got your clocks cleaned. I expect a dose of humility from that.
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According to Churchill the ideal is "Magnanimous in Victory, Defiant in Defeat". What gives you the idea that republicans should behave with humility?

I think republicans should fight like hell, gum up the mechanism, frustrate and tie up the enemy and generally obstruct, delay and diminish the efforts of the democrats.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

Exactly.

Amazing how the left thinks the right is so defeated that it should just lay down and stop breathing.

I'm also amazed by how angry many on the left still are even after their man was reelected and they won other races around the country. Instead of settling down and trying to fix the economic mess they've doubled-down on class warfare and want to silence any forms of conservative commentary by literally closing down Fox News etc.

I know Obama won handily but it wasn't a landslide and I don't think it was a mandate, not even close.
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That's the problem. They don't have the House or the super majority in the Senate to force their agenda on the country any longer. They see the two landmark bills Obama passed are ObamaCare and Frank Dodd, both of which are abominations. Obama has screwed up a lot of stuff with the EPA, Justice, Energy and other departments but they can't abondon him. Nothing important they care about is going to happen with this Congress. If I were a liberal I would be really pissed, too. This is probably their last shot.
 
Quote from IShopAtPublix:

Obama only lost one swing state. That is a landslide in electoral college. If compare it to W where he "won" by one state Florida, and then 2004 in Ohio that is a soul crushing defeat for the other party.
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My soul doesn't feel crushed.

My feeling is mostly a bone-chilling fear that over half the country is really stupid enough to reelect Barrack Obama. That is scary because you can't fix stupid.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

The list I got those stats from INCLUDED all the major US cities.
Your statement was wrong PERIOD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

I wonder if the 9 innocent bystanders shot by the NYPD recently would agree.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248125&perpage=10&pagenumber=1

We don't have a "gun problem". We have a fucked up, stupid, crazy, evil people problem.


Do you have ANY facts to back up these suggestions of yours? ANY?
How do you guys come up with these utterly arbitrary limits anyway?
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Adjust that table by population and you would be amazed. You are not very bright are you?
 
Quote from IShopAtPublix:

Adjust that table by population and you would be amazed. You are not very bright are you?
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I did. I was amazed at the number of murders and crime in most of the liberal intercity hell holes in deep democrap states.
 
Quote from IShopAtPublix:

Adjust that table by population and you would be amazed. You are not very bright are you?
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He is bright, trust me.

You were doing well being civil, why take the low road now?
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

He is bright, trust me.

You were doing well being civil, why take the low road now?
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Because he is arguing things that are blatantly obvious. You compare NYPD to LAPD and it is not even funny. NYPD is way more effective. In another thread he is trying to prove that LA is safer than NYC which it is not. You compare across all statistics and NYC is doing very well, much better than much smaller cities located in states with easy gun laws.

Compare NYC to Jax/FL and tell me how open carry works wonders. Bear in mind Jax/FL is MUCH MUCH smaller.
 
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