Quote from dsq:
Thanks for all the great replies.Keep em coming.All suggestions welcomed.
I dont drink-hardly- or smoke....Also i dont drink coffee.
I eat healthy- no junk or fast foods.I also avoid foods that are inconspicuously loaded with sugar like yogurt,orange juice,peanut butter etc...(ironically sugary foods make me drowsy but also make me non functional-this is a whole other subject but i quit sugary foods 2 yrs ago and i immediately required much less sleep and had more energy and didnt feel drowsy all day long ).
I think by nature i am an evening person...I would love to start trading at 9 30 like east coast folks but i love the west coast.
My body is different :eating before sleep actually makes me more tired and late day exercise keeps me up at night...I will try making sure i am properly hydrated but not too much...
Also this sleep problem doesnt exist on weekends...however i do still take a pill to ensure i will get a full 8+hrs so that i get my catch-up sleep on friday+saturday night...I have tried doing weekend without sleeping pills and my sleep pattern is all over the place.I cant relax.
I dont hold overnight positions-rarely.
During the trading week it is also very hard for me to catch naps despite being so tired.I will fall asllep for like 10mins and then wake up and psych myself into beleioving that i have had a great power nap...Wheni first started daytrading 8 months ago i could fall asleep during the trading hours.But now i dont want to miss a thing.
Last night i caught a rare nap from 6pm-730 pm...It felt so good At about 12 midnight i took my pill and fell asleep hard at 2 30 am.I woke up at 10 30 am and was elated that i had had 8 hrs sleep!!!Plus the 90m minute nap in the early evening!
I know this is stuff is all about psychology i wish i could train my mind to relax.
Seriously stop the sleeping pills. I have had insomnia since began day trading. I am stressed about making money and I am very passionate about trading, I really love it. I had been taking sleeping pills for 2 1/2 years since beginning trading. 10 days ago I said enough. The are addictive, all of them, and you will build up tolerance. I had to keep taking more and more. I have tried everyone.
The first couple of nights w/o them were rough. After that I have been able to sleep 6 hours on avg and I feel much sharper when I trade.
Do you feel hazy when you wake up? I sure did. It messes with your ability to trade.
You sound like me so let me give you some advice. Work out in the morning, before trading ( hard on West Coast ) or schedule time say during the NY or Chi lunch hour when trading gets slow. If you are feeling hungry and can't sleep eat a fruit or vegetable that is high in fiber.
Consider taking up meditation or hypnosis you will feel much less stressed and relaxed.
One other suggestion. Get off the computer 3 hours before you want to sleep. Watch some boring tv with the lights off in your living room, you should not have a tv in your bedroom. Bright lights shut down your brain's production of Melatonin the natural sleep hormone.
It's funny but when I visit my wife's family in Europe I always sleep great. Maybe no stress on vacation, but I walk so much more than sitting at a desk, probably 3 miles a day on avg.
Lastly if you need a caffeine boost drink green tea. For some reason it easier to stop green tea without the headaches.
Good luck
