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I am aware now that not everyone understands what I am referring to when I use the term "Eurobond". I suppose that is understandable because the term is also used to refer to any bond issued that is denominated in Euros. But that is not what is meant here.
I am therefore a appending a wiki article which will give a nice introduction to the concept of a "Eurobond", its advantages and potential pitfalls. This is also a nice rundown of various serious proposals that have been put forth. As the article makes note of, Chancellor Merkel, in 2012, "said no to the Eurobond." I think Soros is correct. Germany should either agree to the Eurobond, or exit the EMU.
It is difficult to overstate how helpful he "Eurobond" could be in assisting a Greek recovery. Everyone should be aware that the Eurobond is something that would greatly facilitate a full monetary union; yet Germany is blocking its implementation.
Because of its length, I have split the article into several parts. (I would normally just give the link, but the importance of this article to the discussion here justifies my posting it directly.)
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Eurobonds
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Not to be confused with Eurobond.
European bonds are suggested government bonds issued in Euros jointly by the 19 eurozone nations. Eurobonds are debt investments whereby an investor loans a certain amount of money, for a certain amount of time, with a certain interest rate, to the eurozone bloc altogether, which then forwards the money to individual governments.
Eurobonds have been suggested as a way to tackle the European sovereign debt crisis as the indebted states could borrow new funds at better conditions as they are supported by the rating of the non-crisis states.
Because Eurobonds would allow already highly indebted states access to cheaper credit thanks to the strength of other Eurozone economies, they are controversial, and may suffer from the free rider problem.[1]
Contents
In May 2010 the two economists Jakob von Weizsäcker and Jacques Delpla published an article proposing a mix of traditional national bonds (red bonds) and jointly issued eurobonds (blue bonds) to prevent debt crises in weaker countries, while at the same time enforcing fiscal sustainability. According to the proposal EU member states should pool up to 60 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) of their national debt under joint and several liability as senior sovereign debt (blue tranche), thereby reducing the borrowing cost for that part of the debt. Any national debt beyond a country's blue bond allocation (red tranche) should be issued as national and junior debt with sound procedures for an orderly default, thus increasing the marginal cost of public borrowing and helping to enhance fiscal discipline. Participating countries must also establish an Independent Stability Council voted on by member states parliaments to propose annually an allocation for the blue bond and to safeguard fiscal responsibility.[2]
The authors argue that while their concept is not a quick fix, their Blue Bond proposal charts an incentive-driven and durable way out of the debt dilemma while "helping prepare the ground for the rise of the euro as an important reserve currency, which could reduce borrowing costs for everybody involved".[2] Smaller countries with relatively illiquid sovereign bonds (such as Austria and Luxembourg) stand to benefit most from the extra liquidity of the blue bond, although even for Germany borrowing costs under the blue bond scheme are expected to fall below current levels. Countries with high debt-to-GDP ratios (such as Italy, Greece, and Portugal) would have a strong incentive for fiscal adjustment.[2]
European Commission proposal
On 21 November 2011 the European Commission suggested European bonds issued jointly by the 17 euro nations as an effective way to tackle the financial crisis. On 23 November 2011 the Commission presented a Green Paper assessing the feasibility of common issuance of sovereign bonds among the EU member states of the eurozone. Sovereign issuance in the eurozone is currently conducted individually by each EU member states. The introduction of commonly issued eurobonds would mean a pooling of sovereign issuance among the member states and the sharing of associated revenue flows and debt-servicing costs.[3]
On 29 November 2012, European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso suggested to introduce Eurobonds step by step, first applying to short-term bonds, then two-year bonds, and later Eurobonds, based on a deeply integrated economic and fiscal governance framework.[4][5]
I am therefore a appending a wiki article which will give a nice introduction to the concept of a "Eurobond", its advantages and potential pitfalls. This is also a nice rundown of various serious proposals that have been put forth. As the article makes note of, Chancellor Merkel, in 2012, "said no to the Eurobond." I think Soros is correct. Germany should either agree to the Eurobond, or exit the EMU.
It is difficult to overstate how helpful he "Eurobond" could be in assisting a Greek recovery. Everyone should be aware that the Eurobond is something that would greatly facilitate a full monetary union; yet Germany is blocking its implementation.
Because of its length, I have split the article into several parts. (I would normally just give the link, but the importance of this article to the discussion here justifies my posting it directly.)
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Eurobonds
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Not to be confused with Eurobond.
European bonds are suggested government bonds issued in Euros jointly by the 19 eurozone nations. Eurobonds are debt investments whereby an investor loans a certain amount of money, for a certain amount of time, with a certain interest rate, to the eurozone bloc altogether, which then forwards the money to individual governments.
Eurobonds have been suggested as a way to tackle the European sovereign debt crisis as the indebted states could borrow new funds at better conditions as they are supported by the rating of the non-crisis states.
Because Eurobonds would allow already highly indebted states access to cheaper credit thanks to the strength of other Eurozone economies, they are controversial, and may suffer from the free rider problem.[1]
Contents
- 1 Blue bond proposal
- 2 European Commission proposal
- 3 Reactions
- 4 Critics
- 5 See also
- 6 References
- 7 External links
In May 2010 the two economists Jakob von Weizsäcker and Jacques Delpla published an article proposing a mix of traditional national bonds (red bonds) and jointly issued eurobonds (blue bonds) to prevent debt crises in weaker countries, while at the same time enforcing fiscal sustainability. According to the proposal EU member states should pool up to 60 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) of their national debt under joint and several liability as senior sovereign debt (blue tranche), thereby reducing the borrowing cost for that part of the debt. Any national debt beyond a country's blue bond allocation (red tranche) should be issued as national and junior debt with sound procedures for an orderly default, thus increasing the marginal cost of public borrowing and helping to enhance fiscal discipline. Participating countries must also establish an Independent Stability Council voted on by member states parliaments to propose annually an allocation for the blue bond and to safeguard fiscal responsibility.[2]
The authors argue that while their concept is not a quick fix, their Blue Bond proposal charts an incentive-driven and durable way out of the debt dilemma while "helping prepare the ground for the rise of the euro as an important reserve currency, which could reduce borrowing costs for everybody involved".[2] Smaller countries with relatively illiquid sovereign bonds (such as Austria and Luxembourg) stand to benefit most from the extra liquidity of the blue bond, although even for Germany borrowing costs under the blue bond scheme are expected to fall below current levels. Countries with high debt-to-GDP ratios (such as Italy, Greece, and Portugal) would have a strong incentive for fiscal adjustment.[2]
European Commission proposal
On 21 November 2011 the European Commission suggested European bonds issued jointly by the 17 euro nations as an effective way to tackle the financial crisis. On 23 November 2011 the Commission presented a Green Paper assessing the feasibility of common issuance of sovereign bonds among the EU member states of the eurozone. Sovereign issuance in the eurozone is currently conducted individually by each EU member states. The introduction of commonly issued eurobonds would mean a pooling of sovereign issuance among the member states and the sharing of associated revenue flows and debt-servicing costs.[3]
On 29 November 2012, European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso suggested to introduce Eurobonds step by step, first applying to short-term bonds, then two-year bonds, and later Eurobonds, based on a deeply integrated economic and fiscal governance framework.[4][5]
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Three approaches to eurobonds
The green paper lists three broad approaches for common issuance of eurobonds based on the degree of substitution of national issuance (full or partial) and the nature of the underlying guarantee (joint and several or several).[3]
According to the European Commission proposal the introduction of eurobonds would create new means through which governments finance their debt, by offering safe and liquid investment opportunities. This "could potentially quickly alleviate the current sovereign debt crisis, as the high-yield Member States could benefit from the stronger creditworthiness of the low-yield Member States." The effect would be immediate even if the introduction of eurobonds takes some time, since changed market expectations adapt instantly, resulting in lower average and marginal funding costs, particularly to those EU member states most hit by the financial crisis. The Commission also believes that eurobonds could make the eurozone financial system more resilient to future adverse shocks and reinforce financial stability. Furthermore they could reduce the vulnerability of banks in the eurozone to deteriorating credit ratings of individual member states by providing them with a source of more robust collateral.[3] Setting a euro-area wide integrated bond market would offer a safe and liquid investment opportunity for savers and financial institutions that matches its US$ counterpart in terms of size and liquidity, which would also strengthen the position of the euro as an international reserve currency and foster a more balanced global financial system.[3]
On the other hand, the governments of those states that most people would like to take over those debt risks do not think that this is a good idea and see other effects. They do not understand why it should help a group of states that have excessively borrowed and circumvented the EU contracts for many years should now be helped by making it even easier for them to borrow even more via Eurobonds. Germany is one of those sceptical states,[7][8] together with Austria,[9] Finland and the Netherlands.[10]
Hans-Werner Sinn from the Munich-based Ifo Institute for Economic Research believes the cost for German tax payers to be between 33 and 47 billion Euros per year.[11][12] Other economists such as Henrik Enderlein from the Hertie School of Governance and Gustav Horn from the Macroeconomic Policy Institute (IMK) contend these figures. Both suggest that German interest rates would only go up marginally, as Eurobonds would benefit from substantially higher liquidity and demand from around the world.[12] Again others believe German interest rates could even go down.[13] Experts from the German finance ministry expect borrowing costs to go up by 0.8%, resulting in additional borrowing costs of 2.5 billion Euros in the first year of introduction and 5 billion in the second year, reaching 20–25 billion Euros after 10 years respectively.[14] After all, Eurobond supporters argue that their introduction "would be far less expensive than the continuous increases to the emergency umbrella or even a failure of the euro."[15]
Tighter fiscal rules
Main article: European Fiscal Union
Presenting the idea of "stability bonds", Jose Manuel Barroso insisted that any such plan would have to be matched by tight fiscal surveillance and economic policy co-ordination as an essential counterpart so as to avoid moral hazard and ensure sustainable public finances.[16][17] Under the proposals, eurozone governments would have to submit their draft national budgets for the following year to the European Commission by 15 October. The Commission would then be able to ask the government to revise the budget if it believed that it was not sound enough to meet its targets for debt and deficit levels as set out in the Euro convergence criteria.[18]
On 9 December 2011 at the European Council meeting, all 17 members of the euro zone and six countries that aspire to join agreed on a new intergovernmental treaty to put strict caps on government spending and borrowing, with penalties for those countries that violate the limits.[19] All other non-eurozone countries except Great Britain are also prepared to join in, subject to parliamentary vote.[20]
Three approaches to eurobonds
The green paper lists three broad approaches for common issuance of eurobonds based on the degree of substitution of national issuance (full or partial) and the nature of the underlying guarantee (joint and several or several).[3]
- Full eurobonds with joint liability: This option suggests to fully replace the entire national issuance by eurobonds, each EU member being fully liable for the entire issuance. According to the European Commission "this would have strong potential positive effects on stability and integration. But at the same time, it would, by abolishing all market or interest rate pressure on Member States, pose a relatively high risk of moral hazard and it might need significant treaty changes."
- Partial eurobonds with joint liability: The second option would pool only a portion of borrowings, again guaranteed by all. This means EU member states would still partly issue national bonds to cover the share of their debts beyond a certain percentage of GDP not covered by eurobonds. The Commission does not state a specific volume or share of financing needs that would be covered by national bonds at the one hand and eurobonds on the other. However, the proposal is similar to that of the German Council of Economic Experts that proposed a European collective redemption fund, which would mutualise the debt in the eurozone above 60%, combined with a bold debt reduction scheme for those countries, which are not on life support from the European Financial Stability Facility. This option is expected to require an amendment of the TFEU treaty.[6]
- Partial eurobonds without joint guarantees: According to the third option that is similar to the blue bond proposal, eurobonds would again cover only parts of the debt (like option 2) but without joint guarantees. This could impose strict entry conditions for a smaller group of countries to pool some debt and allow for the removal of countries that do not meet their fiscal obligations. Due to "a mechanism to redistribute some of the funding advantages ... between the higher- and lower-rated" governments, this option aims to minimise the risk of moral hazard for the conduct of economic and fiscal policies. Unlike the first two approaches, this would involve "several but not joint" government guarantees and could therefore be implemented relatively quickly without having to change EU treaties.
According to the European Commission proposal the introduction of eurobonds would create new means through which governments finance their debt, by offering safe and liquid investment opportunities. This "could potentially quickly alleviate the current sovereign debt crisis, as the high-yield Member States could benefit from the stronger creditworthiness of the low-yield Member States." The effect would be immediate even if the introduction of eurobonds takes some time, since changed market expectations adapt instantly, resulting in lower average and marginal funding costs, particularly to those EU member states most hit by the financial crisis. The Commission also believes that eurobonds could make the eurozone financial system more resilient to future adverse shocks and reinforce financial stability. Furthermore they could reduce the vulnerability of banks in the eurozone to deteriorating credit ratings of individual member states by providing them with a source of more robust collateral.[3] Setting a euro-area wide integrated bond market would offer a safe and liquid investment opportunity for savers and financial institutions that matches its US$ counterpart in terms of size and liquidity, which would also strengthen the position of the euro as an international reserve currency and foster a more balanced global financial system.[3]
On the other hand, the governments of those states that most people would like to take over those debt risks do not think that this is a good idea and see other effects. They do not understand why it should help a group of states that have excessively borrowed and circumvented the EU contracts for many years should now be helped by making it even easier for them to borrow even more via Eurobonds. Germany is one of those sceptical states,[7][8] together with Austria,[9] Finland and the Netherlands.[10]
Hans-Werner Sinn from the Munich-based Ifo Institute for Economic Research believes the cost for German tax payers to be between 33 and 47 billion Euros per year.[11][12] Other economists such as Henrik Enderlein from the Hertie School of Governance and Gustav Horn from the Macroeconomic Policy Institute (IMK) contend these figures. Both suggest that German interest rates would only go up marginally, as Eurobonds would benefit from substantially higher liquidity and demand from around the world.[12] Again others believe German interest rates could even go down.[13] Experts from the German finance ministry expect borrowing costs to go up by 0.8%, resulting in additional borrowing costs of 2.5 billion Euros in the first year of introduction and 5 billion in the second year, reaching 20–25 billion Euros after 10 years respectively.[14] After all, Eurobond supporters argue that their introduction "would be far less expensive than the continuous increases to the emergency umbrella or even a failure of the euro."[15]
Tighter fiscal rules
Main article: European Fiscal Union
Presenting the idea of "stability bonds", Jose Manuel Barroso insisted that any such plan would have to be matched by tight fiscal surveillance and economic policy co-ordination as an essential counterpart so as to avoid moral hazard and ensure sustainable public finances.[16][17] Under the proposals, eurozone governments would have to submit their draft national budgets for the following year to the European Commission by 15 October. The Commission would then be able to ask the government to revise the budget if it believed that it was not sound enough to meet its targets for debt and deficit levels as set out in the Euro convergence criteria.[18]
On 9 December 2011 at the European Council meeting, all 17 members of the euro zone and six countries that aspire to join agreed on a new intergovernmental treaty to put strict caps on government spending and borrowing, with penalties for those countries that violate the limits.[19] All other non-eurozone countries except Great Britain are also prepared to join in, subject to parliamentary vote.[20]
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Reactions
Italy and Greece have frequently spoken out in favour of eurobonds, the then Italian Minister of economy Giulio Tremonti calling it the "master solution" to the eurozone debt crisis.[21] A growing field of investors and economists share this belief, saying eurobonds would be the best way of solving the debt crisis.[6]
However, Germany remains opposed to debt that would be jointly issued and underwritten by all 17 members of the currency bloc, saying it could substantially raise the country's liabilities in the debt crisis. Barroso maintained that Germany did not oppose joint issuance in principle, but questioned the timing of it.[22] Austria, Bulgaria, Finland and the Netherlands have also raised objections over eurobond issuance. Bulgarian finance minister Simeon Djankov criticised eurobonds in Austria's Der Standard: "Cheap credit got us into the current eurozone crisis, it's naive to think it is going to get us out of it."
Counter proposals
On 28 November 2011, German newspaper Die Welt reported that Germany, France and four other AAA-rated EU members may issue common "elite bonds" (or "triple A bonds") in a bid to raise more money at low interest rates for themselves and, under strict conditions, to help also indebted euro region members.[23] Austria, Finland, Luxembourg and the Netherlands are said to be part of the plan aimed at stabilising the top-rated countries and calming financial markets. Common bonds of the six countries are expected to have an interest rate of 2 percent to 2.5 percent.[24]
Following the 2011 proposal made by the "five wise economists" from the German Council of Economic Experts, Guy Verhofstadt, leader of the liberal ALDE group in the European Parliament, suggested creating a European collective redemption fund. It would mutualise eurozone debt above 60%, combining it with a bold debt reduction scheme for countries not on life support from the EFSF.[6]
In January 2012 a working group within the European League for Economic Cooperation unveiled a blueprint for a Euro T-Bill Fund. The proposal, which elaborates further on a concept first introduced by Rabo Bank's Chief Economist Wim Boonstra, calls for a temporary fund of only four years and bonds with a maturity of a maximum of two years.[25]
In March 2012, Boston Consulting Group also followed up on the German Council proposal, agreeing that "the scope of the problem is too great to be solved by the European Stability Mechanism or the medium-term injection of liquidity by the European Central Bank" and favouring limited-scope Eurobonds.[26]
In June 2012, German chancellor Angela Merkel said no to Eurobonds.[27]
Critics
The planned introduction of Eurobonds has been criticised by economists for economic reasons such as the Free rider problem or Moral Hazard.[28] Beside economic grounds, mainly legal and political reasons are mentioned which could prohibit the introduction of Eurobonds: Article 125 of the Lisbon Treaty states explicitly that the European Union and its member states are not liable for the commitments of other members.[29] Since Eurobonds would possibly contravene Article 125, it may have to be changed prior introduction.[30]
Reactions
Italy and Greece have frequently spoken out in favour of eurobonds, the then Italian Minister of economy Giulio Tremonti calling it the "master solution" to the eurozone debt crisis.[21] A growing field of investors and economists share this belief, saying eurobonds would be the best way of solving the debt crisis.[6]
However, Germany remains opposed to debt that would be jointly issued and underwritten by all 17 members of the currency bloc, saying it could substantially raise the country's liabilities in the debt crisis. Barroso maintained that Germany did not oppose joint issuance in principle, but questioned the timing of it.[22] Austria, Bulgaria, Finland and the Netherlands have also raised objections over eurobond issuance. Bulgarian finance minister Simeon Djankov criticised eurobonds in Austria's Der Standard: "Cheap credit got us into the current eurozone crisis, it's naive to think it is going to get us out of it."
Counter proposals
On 28 November 2011, German newspaper Die Welt reported that Germany, France and four other AAA-rated EU members may issue common "elite bonds" (or "triple A bonds") in a bid to raise more money at low interest rates for themselves and, under strict conditions, to help also indebted euro region members.[23] Austria, Finland, Luxembourg and the Netherlands are said to be part of the plan aimed at stabilising the top-rated countries and calming financial markets. Common bonds of the six countries are expected to have an interest rate of 2 percent to 2.5 percent.[24]
Following the 2011 proposal made by the "five wise economists" from the German Council of Economic Experts, Guy Verhofstadt, leader of the liberal ALDE group in the European Parliament, suggested creating a European collective redemption fund. It would mutualise eurozone debt above 60%, combining it with a bold debt reduction scheme for countries not on life support from the EFSF.[6]
In January 2012 a working group within the European League for Economic Cooperation unveiled a blueprint for a Euro T-Bill Fund. The proposal, which elaborates further on a concept first introduced by Rabo Bank's Chief Economist Wim Boonstra, calls for a temporary fund of only four years and bonds with a maturity of a maximum of two years.[25]
In March 2012, Boston Consulting Group also followed up on the German Council proposal, agreeing that "the scope of the problem is too great to be solved by the European Stability Mechanism or the medium-term injection of liquidity by the European Central Bank" and favouring limited-scope Eurobonds.[26]
In June 2012, German chancellor Angela Merkel said no to Eurobonds.[27]
Critics
The planned introduction of Eurobonds has been criticised by economists for economic reasons such as the Free rider problem or Moral Hazard.[28] Beside economic grounds, mainly legal and political reasons are mentioned which could prohibit the introduction of Eurobonds: Article 125 of the Lisbon Treaty states explicitly that the European Union and its member states are not liable for the commitments of other members.[29] Since Eurobonds would possibly contravene Article 125, it may have to be changed prior introduction.[30]
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References
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- "The blue bond proposal". Bruegel Policy Institute. May 2010. Retrieved 24 November 2011.
- "European Commission Green Paper on the feasibility of introducing Stability Bonds". European Commission. 23 November 2011. Retrieved 24 November 2011.
- "EU Commission's Barroso unveils plan for euro's future". BBC. 29 November 2012. Retrieved 2012-11-29.
- "Barroso fordert Euro-Bonds und Euro-Finanzminister". Sueddeutsche. 29 November 2012. Retrieved 2012-11-29.
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There wasn't anybody that was confused. Other than you piezoe.
Everybody understands that a eurobond is just like a US treasury and obligates the whole country, or all the countries in the case of a eurozone.
What is being proposed in the most absurd proposal i've ever seen is that Greece should be able to independently issue bonds that Germany and the rest of the countries would be liable for.
There literally is nobody on earth that is dumb enough to go with that proposal. Especially not the Germans.
Everybody understands that a eurobond is just like a US treasury and obligates the whole country, or all the countries in the case of a eurozone.
What is being proposed in the most absurd proposal i've ever seen is that Greece should be able to independently issue bonds that Germany and the rest of the countries would be liable for.
There literally is nobody on earth that is dumb enough to go with that proposal. Especially not the Germans.
The germans will come around or be kicked out by a mass of other country's who are serious about integration, the tide has already turned, european integration is not a window dressing exercise, you dont get to pick and choose, the zone comes first. Expecting other countries to be in a permanent depression so germany can continue using and benefiting from an under valued currency in relation to its economy is lunacy. Again integration on this level is not some cute gesture its a serious business, if you are not a player then get the hell out.
