Bullshit, not everybody qualifies for those programs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/22/cantor-to-uninsured-woman_n_295162.html
Yup, if you have cancer, show up in the emergency room, that would take care of it.
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Bullshit, not everybody qualifies for those programs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/22/cantor-to-uninsured-woman_n_295162.html
Yup, if you have cancer, show up in the emergency room, that would take care of it.
No, of course not everybody qualifies for those programs. You actually have to need them. You can't be wealthy and be admitted to them, as it should be.
If you don't like the programs, fine, argue for a change in the program. But there's a LONG way between making changes in Medicare and single payer obamacare euronadian style trainwreck that just got shoved down america's throats despite the fact that the majority was against it.
If you don't like the programs, fine, argue for a change in the program. But there's a LONG way between making changes in Medicare and single payer obamacare euronadian style trainwreck that just got shoved down america's throats despite the fact that the majority was against it.
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Bullshit, not everybody qualifies for those programs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/22/cantor-to-uninsured-woman_n_295162.html
Yup, if you have cancer, show up in the emergency room, that would take care of it.
And yes, if you do show up in the emergency room with symptoms of cancer, they will generally test you for cancer. If you have cancer they treat you. If you cant afford treatment, they put you on medicare or medicaid. That's usually what happens for most Americans who contract cancer and can not pay. I'm sure you are not in the medical field and have no clue what you are talking about, or you wouldn't be spewing this erroneous bullshit.
Quote from hermit:
Bullshit, not everybody qualifies for those programs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/22/cantor-to-uninsured-woman_n_295162.html
Yup, if you have cancer, show up in the emergency room, that would take care of it.
Quote from phenomena:
No, of course not everybody qualifies for those programs. You actually have to need them. You can't be wealthy and be admitted to them, as it should be.
If you don't like the programs, fine, argue for a change in the program. But there's a LONG way between making changes in Medicare and single payer obamacare euronadian style trainwreck that just got shoved down america's throats despite the fact that the majority was against it.
You are repeating talking points now, Obamacare does not even have a public option let alone it being single payer. And those who opposed the bill while it was being passed also included people who wanted things like the public option.
And whatever the Euro model is, the US model is worse both in terms of cost and output.
" We manage to spend more on health care per capita than any country in the world, while being ranked 37th in the world by the WHO, 72nd in the world for healthiness of its citizens, and 19th among industrialized countries (last) by the Commonwealth fund"
http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2009/05/whats_health_care_like_in_aust.php
I believed that until I actually experienced euro healthcare. My family members in the medical field told me as well... Like I said there are exceptions in europe, switzerland is probably the most notable. But their system resembles the USA far more than it does a typical euro system. I could live with us adopting the swiss healthcare system, so long as we adopted thier policy on gun rights along with it...
Better "output"? LOL, you've got to be kidding me. People in the USA think that 11 days is a long wait for an MRI scan!! ROFL!!!! Someone in Spain, the UK, or Canada would be selling their mother to get a scan or test done that quickly. Like I said, you can spew all the socialist sources you want, but the reality on the ground is often a very different story. Such is often the case with health care.
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Better "output"? LOL, you've got to be kidding me. People in the USA think that 11 days is a long wait for an MRI scan!! ROFL!!!! Someone in Spain, the UK, or Canada would be selling their mother to get a scan or test done that quickly. Like I said, you can spew all the socialist sources you want, but the reality on the ground is often a very different story. Such is often the case with health care.
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Quote from hermit:
You are repeating talking points now, Obamacare does not even have a public option let alone it being single payer. And those who opposed the bill while it was being passed also included people who wanted things like the public option.
And whatever the Euro model is, the US model is worse both in terms of cost and output.
" We manage to spend more on health care per capita than any country in the world, while being ranked 37th in the world by the WHO, 72nd in the world for healthiness of its citizens, and 19th among industrialized countries (last) by the Commonwealth fund"
http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2009/05/whats_health_care_like_in_aust.php
Quote from phenomena:
I believed that until I actually experienced euro healthcare. My family members in the medical field told me as well... Like I said there are exceptions in europe, switzerland is probably the most notable. But their system resembles the USA far more than it does a typical euro system. I could live with us adopting the swiss healthcare system, so long as we adopted thier policy on gun rights along with it...
Better "output"? LOL, you've got to be kidding me. People in the USA think that 11 days is a long wait for an MRI scan!! ROFL!!!! Someone in Spain, the UK, or Canada would be selling their mother to get a scan or test done that quickly. Like I said, you can spew all the socialist sources you want, but the reality on the ground is often a very different story. Such is often the case with health care.
Ya right, let's ignore every stat and everything else I pointed and just compare wait times for elective procedures. Obviously talking about cost and outcome is socialist, but explicitly talking in support of the tea party doesn't make you a tea partier.
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He found out by pure fluke, his whole face went numb one day, and he didnt know what it was, he isnt one for going to the hospital, but his wife made him go because she thought he was having a stroke, they did the initial tests where he drank something, which appeared on an xray and they found them. Turns out his face going numb was just a pinched nerve in his jaw.
Then he had to go for an MRI to find exactly where they were located, which is what made me mad that it took four months, if something would have happened in that time and he would have died when it was operable it would have made me incredibly angry. And this is a perfect example of how broken Canada's healthcare system is.
Nothing they can do to operate on them unfortunately, but he can prolong his life through diet and quitting smoking/drinking, and it really doesnt bug him to much, when they pop he dies, its instant and painless, so it was kind of nice to atleast figure out they were there so me and him could make peace with each other and say what we need to say. He could live 10 years, he could die tomorrow, you just never know, so luike you said if was pure fluke and actually a blessing to find them. Most people dont get the chance, and dont find out that a loved one had an anneurism until they drop dead unexpectedly one day.
Good to hear.