foreign aid does more harm than good

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The term you're looking for is 'humanitarian aid'.



It's $3.8 billion now. It's not important? It's 20% of US foreign aid budget, math is hard?
$10.1 million per DAY out of US taxpayers' pocket.
Meanwhile Israel is constantly expanding and running offensive wars against smaller neighbors.

Baltics for example need the money much more, being poorer and being surrounded by an army many times bigger, as I already stated.
If incomes are irrelevant then Finland would be the next in line.

No wonder Israel looks at America as its servant.

Israel once in a while conducts airstrikes or covert actions against countries that play offensive options. It is all justified.

Each year US spends $50B easy on keeping 2 million people behind bars at $50K a year. Lot of these are in for pity crimes that do not warrant even several months of jailing. $3B is peanuts compared to that.

When was the last Russians fired a rocket or tank or even a bullet at Baltics? On the otherhand if Russia decides, Baltics will be absorbed by Moscow within 24 hours, with or without NATO's help to Baltics.

Economic mess in Baltics, Ukraine is more to do with internal corruption and looting state treasuries and then emigrating in the west, than with any other factor.

WHO reports that 1/3rd of world's food production is wasted in storage and other inefficiencies. An example of India wasting $14B of food grains a year while 1 in 5 kids have stunted growth due to low nutrition.

http://gulfnews.com/news/asia/india...p-wasting-14-billion-of-food-a-year-1.2151814


"The paradox of millions going hungry in India while food goes to waste is receiving increasing amounts of attention as the FAO stresses that one third of food produced globally for human consumption is wasted every year."

This brings back to external aid topic. It should be heavily scrutinized and any case of corruption or inefficient use should result in cancelling or modification of the terms.

 

[zdreg]

covert actions

Israel once in a while conducts airstrikes or covert actions against countries that play offensive options.

covert actions by their nature are on going and there are no vacations.
8 - “Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel's Targeted Assassinations” by Ronen Bergman (translated from Hebrew by Ronnie Hope), Random House, 784 pp, $35. released 1/30/2018

 

[d08]

Israel once in a while conducts airstrikes or covert actions against countries that play offensive options. It is all justified.

Each year US spends $50B easy on keeping 2 million people behind bars at $50K a year. Lot of these are in for pity crimes that do not warrant even several months of jailing. $3B is peanuts compared to that.

When was the last Russians fired a rocket or tank or even a bullet at Baltics? On the otherhand if Russia decides, Baltics will be absorbed by Moscow within 24 hours, with or without NATO's help to Baltics.

Economic mess in Baltics, Ukraine is more to do with internal corruption and looting state treasuries and then emigrating in the west, than with any other factor.

WHO reports that 1/3rd of world's food production is wasted in storage and other inefficiencies. An example of India wasting $14B of food grains a year while 1 in 5 kids have stunted growth due to low nutrition.

http://gulfnews.com/news/asia/india...p-wasting-14-billion-of-food-a-year-1.2151814


"The paradox of millions going hungry in India while food goes to waste is receiving increasing amounts of attention as the FAO stresses that one third of food produced globally for human consumption is wasted every year."

This brings back to external aid topic. It should be heavily scrutinized and any case of corruption or inefficient use should result in cancelling or modification of the terms.

So now US internal expenditures are on equal footing with "aid" to Israel? Wow.

Why not take some more money from US farm subsidies or tax deals (subsidies) to local industries and just send it all to Israel? I mean it's wasteful spending anyway, better "spend it smart" on Israel.

"Internal corruption and looting state treasuries" is not that common in the Baltics, at least not more common than in say, the US. Seems you're still stuck in the good old 90s. Times have moved on. For Ukraine, yes, that's probably the case.
Then you're going to pretend that corruption isn't a problem in Israel. If corruption is your argument, give it to Finland or Norway - those countries have far less corruption compared to Israel.

Russia constantly violates airspace of the Baltics and Finland, it's a common occurrence. So apparently foreign military aircraft flying into your territory aren't aggression now.

Why don't you just say "screw those Muslims" because that's the only argument you actually have.

 

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So now US internal expenditures are on equal footing with "aid" to Israel? Wow.

Why not take some more money from US farm subsidies or tax deals (subsidies) to local industries and just send it all to Israel? I mean it's wasteful spending anyway, better "spend it smart" on Israel.

"Internal corruption and looting state treasuries" is not that common in the Baltics, at least not more common than in say, the US. Seems you're still stuck in the good old 90s. Times have moved on. For Ukraine, yes, that's probably the case.
Then you're going to pretend that corruption isn't a problem in Israel. If corruption is your argument, give it to Finland or Norway - those countries have far less corruption compared to Israel.

Russia constantly violates airspace of the Baltics and Finland, it's a common occurrence. So apparently foreign military aircraft flying into your territory aren't aggression now.

Why don't you just say "screw those Muslims" because that's the only argument you actually have.

You are just trying to split hairs with extremely weak arguments.

Russian overflights are nothing compared to Saudis bombing the crap out of Yemen or Turkey sending tanks to Syria or Iraq still in civil war nearly 15 years after Saddam was thrown out etc. etc.

Baltics are in both NATO and EU, so their peoples can travel to Western Europe and get jobs and send lots of money back home and they do. Hence no need for aid to those countries. Norway and Finland are pretty well off. Infact Norway has probably the biggest or one of the biggest, national sovereign fund.

Still, puny $3B aid to Israel, more than half of which has to be channeled back to US industries is barely nothing.

Why not you just say "screw those Jews"............but that can prove extremely costly to even the mighty superpower the USA. Jews own and control lots of resources in the world. And I would end it there.

 

[Arnie]

Funnily enough they focus on Afghanistan where many actually do need the money.

Meanwhile the US is dumping billions and billions into Israel, a first world country with a healthy economy.
The old excuse is "they are surrounded by enemies". Garbage, if that is the standard then all the money should go to Finland or the Baltics as Russia is a far more militarily dangerous country than Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt and Iran combined.
Israelis have engineered it well though as almost no Americans talk about it and when they do, they actually find ways to justify it. It's their tax dollars being taken and spread in Israel to people who don't actually need it.

When's the last time Russia launched missles at Finland?

But I would like to see the US wean the Europussies off our tax dollars. Time for them to man up and pay for their own defense.

 

[tomorton]

point?
between countries it is always quid pro quo.

Agreed.
If country A "gives" money to country B, its because next time country B needs tractors, country A expects it'll be "Made in A" tractors that they buy.

 

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When's the last time Russia launched missles at Finland?

But I would like to see the US wean the Europussies off our tax dollars. Time for them to man up and pay for their own defense.

When was the last time any country neighboring Israel launches missiles toward Israel?

"Europussies" don't depend on your tax dollars. I bet you have absolutely no idea how NATO works, this is why you're spewing ignorance.

My tax Euros were spent on pointless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, done just to please the US for the alliance.

You are just trying to split hairs with extremely weak arguments.

Russian overflights are nothing compared to Saudis bombing the crap out of Yemen or Turkey sending tanks to Syria or Iraq still in civil war nearly 15 years after Saddam was thrown out etc. etc.

Baltics are in both NATO and EU, so their peoples can travel to Western Europe and get jobs and send lots of money back home and they do. Hence no need for aid to those countries. Norway and Finland are pretty well off. Infact Norway has probably the biggest or one of the biggest, national sovereign fund.

Still, puny $3B aid to Israel, more than half of which has to be channeled back to US industries is barely nothing.

Why not you just say "screw those Jews"............but that can prove extremely costly to even the mighty superpower the USA. Jews own and control lots of resources in the world. And I would end it there.

So thinking Israel should be treated equally and not given special treatment means "screw the Jews" for you. Skewed view of the world you have.

Apparently you're completely clueless how the economy and taxation works, "their peoples can travel to Western Europe and get jobs and send lots of money back home" - taxes are paid to countries where they are earned. The rest of the money sent back isn't nearly enough to fund a proper military. Or are you suggesting the government starts confiscating funds for the military, I believe that's called a dictatorship.

Finland is wealthy, so is Israel, so why is the money flowing to Israel?

You should read a bit before trying to argue. Your facts are at least 2 decades old, thoroughly outdated.

And what does the Saudi-Yemen war have to do with anything. How is Turkey involved?
Fetching random examples in an attempt to change the discussion?

 

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The rest of the money sent back isn't nearly enough to fund a proper military.

Baltics in NATO is good enough defensive measure to thwart any adventures.

However, if Russia attacks the Baltics, NATO won't be able to save Baltics and will have to run an intense campaign to put costs high for Russia to retreat. Hence having an extra squadron of planes or tanks or extra 50K troops is not going to help the Baltics against Russia.

So quit asking for an aid from US to make a stronger military for Baltics. Practically speaking, Israel will probably be the last country from which US will pull its aid from.

It seems your main issue is not Baltics but something against Israel. It seems a personal agenda, cannot help you with that.

 

[Cuddles]

When's the last time Russia launched missles at Finland?

But I would like to see the US wean the Europussies off our tax dollars. Time for them to man up and pay for their own defense.

Oh, ok, I guess they didn't just annex part of a country recently then.

 

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Finland is wealthy, so is Israel, so why is the money flowing to Israel?

Sir, it seems you have hijacked the thread from foreign aid to US aid to Israel. It's not worth it.

Bottomline is, any foreign aid needs to be implemented and used efficiently or terms should be denied or modified to get better results.