foreign aid does more harm than good

foreign aid causes more harm than good

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Surely a significant benefit of foreign aid (to the donor) is political leverage over the recipient country?

A significant part of the aid is also for benefit to US corporations, where the US grants aid to countries specifically to buy products from US corporations, especially weapons, pharmaceuticals and farm products. Plus there is medical aid to stop outbreaks of diseases before they can spread to the rest of the world.
 
responses on this thread makes me wonder if posters actually read the article. perhaps the title of this thread should have read foreign aid, excluding military aid, does more harm than good.
 
Exactly what I mean. It seems worthwhile (for the US government) to meet the cost of the military aid to Israel in order to have a militarily strong Israel. A militarily strong Israel also means greater military spending by the surrounding Arab countries and their allies, which might be another benefit to the US. Nothing is for nothing.

After several wars and hard spanking on the rear end "meat slabs", Arab nations need to learn that to spend billions on weapons to fight Israel is a futile venture.

Aid to Israel is puny to the tune of mere $3B a year.
 
responses on this thread makes me wonder if posters actually read the article. perhaps the title of this thread should have read foreign aid, excluding military aid, does more harm than good.

The term you're looking for is 'humanitarian aid'.

After several wars and hard spanking on the rear end "meat slabs", Arab nations need to learn that to spend billions on weapons to fight Israel is a futile venture.

Aid to Israel is puny to the tune of mere $3B a year.

It's $3.8 billion now. It's not important? It's 20% of US foreign aid budget, math is hard?
$10.1 million per DAY out of US taxpayers' pocket.
Meanwhile Israel is constantly expanding and running offensive wars against smaller neighbors.

Baltics for example need the money much more, being poorer and being surrounded by an army many times bigger, as I already stated.
If incomes are irrelevant then Finland would be the next in line.

No wonder Israel looks at America as its servant.
 
Exactly what I mean. It seems worthwhile (for the US government) to meet the cost of the military aid to Israel in order to have a militarily strong Israel. A militarily strong Israel also means greater military spending by the surrounding Arab countries and their allies, which might be another benefit to the US. Nothing is for nothing.

Which most likely isn't though. It means Iran and Syria will buy weapons from Russia, resulting in a stronger Russia.
Maybe for Trump this makes sense, propping up the Russian economy with US taxpayer funds.

The math is terrible here anyway, give 3bn to Israel and receive something like a few hundred mil back as tax revenue? Gee, what a great deal, a real money maker.
 
The term you're looking for is 'humanitarian aid'.



It's $3.8 billion now. It's not important? It's 20% of US foreign aid budget, math is hard?
$10.1 million per DAY out of US taxpayers' pocket.
Meanwhile Israel is constantly expanding and running offensive wars against smaller neighbors.

Baltics for example need the money much more, being poorer and being surrounded by an army many times bigger, as I already stated.
If incomes are irrelevant then Finland would be the next in line.

No wonder Israel looks at America as its servant.
now let's look at the details which in your bias of the facts left out.
Most importantly, it's structured so that more Israeli defense spending goes to U.S. companies. Israel's long-standing special arrangement for funds from the United States previously allowed Israel to spend 26 percent of the money in Israel — on Israeli-made defense products. But that provision is being phased out over the first five years of the deal.

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/15/big-us-military-aid-package-to-israel-has-strings-attached.html
why not call this aid for what it is the full employment Act for the American Defense Industry.
furthermore the Armed Forces of the US get the benefit of seeing how their weapons perform under battlefield conditions.
 
now let's look at the details which in your bias of the facts left out.
Most importantly, it's structured so that more Israeli defense spending goes to U.S. companies. Israel's long-standing special arrangement for funds from the United States previously allowed Israel to spend 26 percent of the money in Israel — on Israeli-made defense products. But that provision is being phased out over the first five years of the deal.

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/15/big-us-military-aid-package-to-israel-has-strings-attached.html
why not call this aid for what it is the full employment Act for the American Defense Industry.
furthermore the Armed Forces of the US get the benefit of seeing how their weapons perform under battlefield conditions.

Weak argument as US military tech gets plenty of testing done in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, South China Sea etc.

You could do the same deal anywhere in the world, no-one would mind the clause dictating the requirement of goods made in US.
Israel isn't some third world country desperately being pillaged daily by foreign forces. A rocket fired into Israel every once in a while doesn't warrant 3.8 billion spending.
Let's talk comparatively, how is Israel having it worse compared to Ukraine?
 
Weak argument as US military tech gets plenty of testing done in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, South China Sea etc.

You could do the same deal anywhere in the world, no-one would mind the clause dictating the requirement of goods made in US.
Israel isn't some third world country desperately being pillaged daily by foreign forces. A rocket fired into Israel every once in a while doesn't warrant 3.8 billion spending.

Let's talk comparatively, how is Israel having it worse compared to Ukraine?

you lost the money argument.

you compare Israel to the Ukraine which has one of the most corrupt governments in Europe and an army not worth the name. you can give them billions and the Russians would still reign supreme.

you spoke about the money for military aid to Israel. you lost your argument on the facts, since the money is spend in the US.
 
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