i think a man called jesus probably did exist but he was just a man that got elevated to deity status by his followers after he was killed. all of the supernatural aspects were simply made up.
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i think a man called jesus probably did exist but he was just a man that got elevated to deity status by his followers after he was killed. all of the supernatural aspects were simply made up.
Quote from Joab:
It's politically correct, touchy freely people like you that give Christianity a bad rap.
Jesus was NOT always a push over that always loved to turn the other cheek as many would have you believe.
Christ was extremely strong and told people the truth like it or not. Why do you think the he was so feared?
He pulled no punches when it came to right from wrong: When Mary M came to him did he say, it's ok you had a hard life I understand ? NO he said - You are a sinner and you have been forgiven, now... sin no more !!!
He was God's sacrificial Lamb but he will return as God's Lion.
Make no mistake about his strength !
Are you guys talking about Jmmanuel, a reincarnated soul from another planet sent to teach humanity some wisdom
or are you talking about fiction of Jesus Christ
hmm........
Quote from jem:
prove he did not exist by taking historical records of the day and showing that there is an absence of reference to him where it should have existed.
you might learn something.
Well, one thing is for certain ... you didn't (learn anything that is).
Several people have already taken you to school on that one and you continue to claim the same old thing.
JB
Quote from jem:
prove he did not exist by taking historical records of the day and showing that there is an absence of reference to him where it should have existed.
you might learn something.
1. There is no substantiated historical evidence that Jesus was God. This is entirely a matter of faith.
2. Most of the so-called historical evidence of Jesus's existence was composed decades after his death. In terms of primary historical documents (first-hand evidence), evidence is nil.
Actually, even if Jesus did exist, in the end it does not matter, since historical evidence exists that Christianity is based on unwarranted assumptions.
Adam and Eve are not historical. The whole creation story, the naming of the animals, and such did not happen. The evidence that humans appeared hundreds of millions of years after life appeared is overwhelming.
No Adam and Eve, then therefore no original sin.
No original sin, then no need for a Saviour.
Adam and Eve are not historical. The whole creation story, the naming of the animals, and such did not happen. The evidence that humans appeared hundreds of millions of years after life appeared is overwhelming.
No Adam and Eve, then therefore no original sin.
No original sin, then no need for a Saviour.
even if you can prove a man named jesus existed at that time it does nothing to make the case he was some kind of deity.Quote from jem:
prove he did not exist by taking historical records of the day and showing that there is an absence of reference to him where it should have existed.
you might learn something.
Quote from smilingsynic:
1. There is no substantiated historical evidence that Jesus was God. This is entirely a matter of faith.
As opposed to all the evidence of everyone else who claimed to be God?
The fact is, there is a large amount of evidence for his claims in the existence of several hundred fulfilled prophecies. It is quite unlikely that you ever did an objective analysis of them, or even did the standard cursory look of a "skeptic", who is able to dismiss everything out of hand whether he grasps it or not.
2. Most of the so-called historical evidence of Jesus's existence was composed decades after his death.
Please post your proof of this on this thread, thanks...
In terms of primary historical documents (first-hand evidence), evidence is nil.
This can be said for most historical characters. Perhaps we should dismiss every such person without "firsthand evidence? The fact is, there are far more copies of the New Testament from the century or two following Christ's lifetime than any character or book in history. Hundreds to thousands of partial and complete works.
Most Jewish writings are from strong oral traditions. Your complaint against written evidence overlooks that this was the main way that information was passed on, and usually, quite accurately.
Secondly, Josephus, Jewish writings and Roman writings have significant amounts to say about his effect and presence.
Try doing your homework first before displaying so much ignorance. You don't even qualify as a rank amateur.