Flu vs COVID

[Turveyd]

Well, Sweden still has a king on the throne. Can you imagine? When was the last time England had a king?

So maybe that's it. Hehe

Atleast 70+ years, as we've had the same Queen for well 70+ years, guess we'll have a king next time, doesn't mean anything it's just a tourist trap for you Yanks that love it, brings in billions ever year and nobody over here gives a shit about them.

 

[Turveyd]

Uh... from memory the strictest lockdown in Estern Europe was in the Czeq Republic, it now hss the highest covid incidence in Europe...
Care to remind us what lockdown Sweden implemented ? Curious minds want to know...

Lefties and there lies to discredit Sweden.

Most of the people from there civic duty did a self imposed lockdown without being told is what the lefties try to make out to cover there asses on the Covid BS, not from the videos I've seen where everyone is walking around and there are no bodies in the kerbs, odd that.

 

[Turveyd]

Uh... from memory the strictest lockdown in Estern Europe was in the Czeq Republic, it now hss the highest covid incidence in Europe...
Care to remind us what lockdown Sweden implemented ? Curious minds want to know...

Did I say there doing Lockdowns or plan to here soon, 3 weeks, but the infections aren't high enough to do the Shielding program yet where they protect the at risk group so letting them basically catch it. WTF!!

Completely the ass about tit illogical way to do it, protect the at risk and let everyone else catch it ASAP so then it's safe for the at risk, cause the longer you slow it down with lockdowns the higher the odds of getting to the at risk.

But hey 2020 Logic and common sense pretty sure that was outlawed!

 

[luisHK]

Lefties and there lies to discredit Sweden.

Most of the people from there civic duty did a self imposed lockdown without being told is what the lefties try to make out to cover there asses on the Covid BS, not from the videos I've seen where everyone is walking around and there are no bodies in the kerbs, odd that.

That dude Jsop doesn t care much abt facts, while I was living in China he was claiming on this forum one couldn t transfer more than 500usd iut of the country. He's an expert ya know, he s been there and saw people riding mopeds. Not only I wrote I used HSBC premier global transfer services up to the full amount allowed from China but linked the HSBC China official page where it described how one could wire out of the country 200k usd a day. How did he take that ?
Called me a troll and put me on ignore, his side of the story can't be bothered with facts.

 

[Turveyd]

That dude Jsop doesn t care much abt facts, while I was living in China he was claiming on this forum one couldn t transfer more than 500usd iut of the country. He's an expert ya know, he s been there and saw people riding mopeds. Not only I wrote I used HSBC premier global transfer services up to the full amount allowed from China but linked the HSBC official page where it described how one could wire out of the country 200k usd a day. How did it take that ?
Called me a troll and put me on ignore, his side of the story can't be bothered with facts.

Can only see 1 side, people are dying, well yeah, but are you really saving anyone, even the WHO doctor said Lockdowns don't really do much to slow the virus and loads of other reports have stated the same, but still, lockdowns more extra deaths and job losses and 1 step closer to socialist police state is what the people want, until they've got it, then too late, there screwed.

 

[wrbtrader]

Ok you don't get to decide which age should be people's end of life. That's a very callous and heartless notion. You don't want them to be stuck in nursing homes waiting for death? Then you go take care of your elderly in your own home!! But that still does not negate the necessity to follow lockdown and social distancing measures to control the spread of this pandemic.

Already told you, UK tried no lockdown. Didn't work! Get a grip! You like Sweden so much? Go live in Sweden! Like I said, all those people who wants herd should just go into one place, far far away from the rest of us. Sweden seems to be the place to cart off all those herd immunity lovers to but once Sweden is jam packed with all those herd lovers, guess what's gonna happen to its infection rate and death rate? LOL Anyway, good riddance!

• Vaccination ---> Herd Immunity ---> How Long It Lasts is key to Economic Recovery.

Not sure why people are fixated on Sweden when they live in another country that does not have the same healthcare system as Sweden, does not have the same culture as Sweden that will to do its part to prevent tougher restrictions or worst and they ignore the fact that Sweden did do a "lockdown lite" that was accepted by its citizens.

These same people forget that there are other countries that did not lockdown and now performing poorly with Covid-19...like Brazil that has tried targeted restrictions. There's other countries that did lockdown and re-open poorly like the United States...now performing poorly.

Simply, there's obvious more to it than viewing at it via only a lockdown or no lockdown.

• Key variables too: Healthcare system, cultural habits, re-opening process and government leadership (the politics)

A lot of naive people still looking at this via the "lockdown" point of view while they continue to ignore the above complicated pieces of the puzzle. If they can't figure it out...best to pack their bags and move to Sweden.

Get use to the sentence in Swedish Svenska...

Hej och välkommen !

The above variable about cultural habits involves things like vulnerable ethnic communities and unity within the country...you can see easily via the graph below why some countries like United States are doing poorly in its fight against Covid-19 and the people views about the management of Covid-19.

The way I look at it. If you have a bunch of people without confidence in their own country...the economic recovery will be poor unless there's a change in the government to bring back that confidence.

Look at bottom 5 countries. I'm willing to bet there's less people in those countries running around on social media hyping Sweden's performance.

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/...esponse-to-covid-19-in-14-advanced-economies/

wrbtrader

 

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[JSOP]

Nah everyone send them to care homes over here towards the end, why should the elderly ruin the lives of there younger family, I'll top myself before I ruin my kids lives, 100% guaranteed.

Taking care of your elderly parents who have spent so much of their lives raising you who I am sure have disrupted their lives is not "ruining the lives of the younger family". It's called giving back.

I'd move to Sweden if I could and 1 day I might, only country that didn't over react badly to a new Flu strain.

I feel sorry for Sweden. And if I am in Sweden, I would not want you in my country tbh. LOL

 

[JSOP]

Lefties and there lies to discredit Sweden.

Most of the people from there civic duty did a self imposed lockdown without being told is what the lefties try to make out to cover there asses on the Covid BS, not from the videos I've seen where everyone is walking around and there are no bodies in the kerbs, odd that.

This is not about being left or right. This is about doing what is sensible and responsible to combat a highly contagious and deadly disease.

 

[Turveyd]

Taking care of your elderly parents who have spent so much of their lives raising you who I am sure have disrupted their lives is not "ruining the lives of the younger family". It's called giving back.



I feel sorry for Sweden. And if I am in Sweden, I would not want you in my country tbh. LOL

That's just you being selfish, asking your family to ruin there lives to entertain a old useless version of yourself, when I can no longer ride a mountain bike or climb a mountain goodbye, here for a good time not a pussy life long time.

Swedes have same attitude as me,, be a good fit, they'd hate a sheep like you!