Flu vs COVID

[JSOP]

Not that lockdowns actually save any old peoples lives, thats just a lie you choose to believe, odd charts with lockdowns all look like sweden's without a lockdown, very odd.

Yes it did. Old people didn't die from Covid at the end, they died 1) out of neglect because people who worked there didn't get proper PPE and got sick themselves and abandoned old people and 2) there was no isolation practices to separate the infected from the healthy ones. Masks and social distancing via lockdown DO work unlike what you think.

So far the ONLY example that you have given is Sweden. Sweden actually had lockdown put in place as well at some point after a surge in cases. All of the countries who didn't start with full lockdown eventually all did to control the spread of the disease. All of the countries that implemented strict lockdown measures EARLY right from the start all ended up keeping the disease under control very well, China, South Korea, Japan, many of the Eastern European countries. These are the facts. And these are the truth.

UK first wanted to go herd as well only ended up having HUGE rise in cases, your own Prime Minister himself even ended up getting sick almost not making it. So herd does NOT work. Like I said before, you obviously didn't read, you need at least 70% of the population getting sick and hopefully recover to develop some herd immunity without a vaccine otherwise it won't work. And 70% of the population is a lot of people and is just too high of a risk. People do DIE from it, people who are young with no underlying health condition, non-smoking, non-drinking still die from this virus. You want to die? Go die and sacrifice yourself for the sake of creating herd immunity. But stay the hell away!

 

[JSOP]

As southpark said, everyones lost there jobs and nobody has died, well only old people you expected to die cause there old and they used to die of natural causes.

When you are still alive, you can still create those jobs. When you are dead, you are dead forever, no jobs permanently. I dunno why people just don't realize this.

 

[Turveyd]

Yes it did. Old people didn't die from Covid at the end, they died 1) out of neglect because people who work there didn't get proper PPE and got sick themselves and abandoned old people and 2) No isolation practices to separate the infected from the healthy ones. Masks and social distancing via lockdown DO work unlike what you think.

So far the ONLY example that you have given is Sweden. Sweden actually had lockdown put in place as well after a surge in cases. All of the countries who didn't start with full lockdown eventually all did to control the spread of the disease. All of the countries that implemented strict lockdown measures EARLY right from the start all ended up keeping the disease under control very well, China, South Korea, Japan, many of the Eastern European countries. So your arguments are not valid.

3) They weren't admitted to hospitals, refused addmission.

4) They on testing positive where returned to there care homes still ill to infect the rest of the care home.

You keep claiming that, because you've been told and you want to believe but the data suggests different.

Sweden had a lockdown LOL, the country that worships there science advisors for not making them suffer a crippling lockdown and less deaths than most places with a lockdown, that's leftie BS there, as they just can't handle the truth, so they make up lies.

Sweden had no groups larger than 50, bit of social distancing and that's it, NO LOCKDOWN!!

And the Strict 1's will all get the virus back, time and time again and keep wasting peoples lives with more lockdowns.

Math right.

60Million people in the UK had 6months of there lives pretty much wasted, so 30Mil years / average life 78, that's 384,000 life times wasted, well done. Many of those old people so you've wasted the last 6months of there lives for 0.07% of population, well done!!

 

[Turveyd]

When you are still alive, you can still create those jobs. When you are dead, you are dead forever, no jobs permanently. I dunno why people just don't realize this.

You don't realise, ONS UK stat's, actual covid deaths 15K, total extra deaths 60K, so 45K where killed by the lockdowns, 3x's what the virus killed, your scared over reacting side is killing 3x's more people than the damn nothing virus which isn't really killing as many as the damn flu FFS!!

Average death age 82, there end of life anyway, there not having fun, there stuck in a care home waiting for death, I've been the care homes, I'm never going to 1 literally, no way in hell, not that lockdowns are even saving any FFS!

Lockdowns, have zero proven ability to save anyone, so therefore lockdown UK or no lockdown Sweden same damn result, lockdown might slow to help health care services but as the UK peaked at 25% on 8th April and didn't get close to over whelming health care, guess what slowing wasn't needed.

 

[Turveyd]

Sweden had near Zero extra deaths, they didn't murder there own citizens on mass, while pretending to save them from a virus, they can't actually defend them from.

 

[JSOP]

Average death age 82, there end of life anyway, there not having fun, there stuck in a care home waiting for death, I've been the care homes, I'm never going to 1 literally, no way in hell, not that lockdowns are even saving any FFS!

Ok you don't get to decide which age should be people's end of life. That's a very callous and heartless notion. You don't want them to be stuck in nursing homes waiting for death? Then you go take care of your elderly in your own home!! But that still does not negate the necessity to follow lockdown and social distancing measures to control the spread of this pandemic.

Lockdowns, have zero proven ability to save anyone, so therefore lockdown UK or no lockdown Sweden same damn result, lockdown might slow to help health care services but as the UK peaked at 25% on 8th April and didn't get close to over whelming health care, guess what slowing wasn't needed.

Already told you, UK tried no lockdown. Didn't work! Get a grip! You like Sweden so much? Go live in Sweden! Like I said, all those people who wants herd should just go into one place, far far away from the rest of us. Sweden seems to be the place to cart off all those herd immunity lovers to but once Sweden is jam packed with all those herd lovers, guess what's gonna happen to its infection rate and death rate? LOL Anyway, good riddance!

 

[Overnight]

Well, Sweden still has a king on the throne. Can you imagine? When was the last time England had a king?

So maybe that's it. Hehe

 

[luisHK]

Yes it did. Old people didn't die from Covid at the end, they died 1) out of neglect because people who worked there didn't get proper PPE and got sick themselves and abandoned old people and 2) there was no isolation practices to separate the infected from the healthy ones. Masks and social distancing via lockdown DO work unlike what you think.

So far the ONLY example that you have given is Sweden. Sweden actually had lockdown put in place as well at some point after a surge in cases. All of the countries who didn't start with full lockdown eventually all did to control the spread of the disease. All of the countries that implemented strict lockdown measures EARLY right from the start all ended up keeping the disease under control very well, China, South Korea, Japan, many of the Eastern European countries. These are the facts. And these are the truth.

UK first wanted to go herd as well only ended up having HUGE rise in cases, your own Prime Minister himself even ended up getting sick almost not making it. So herd does NOT work. Like I said before, you obviously didn't read, you need at least 70% of the population getting sick and hopefully recover to develop some herd immunity without a vaccine otherwise it won't work. And 70% of the population is a lot of people and is just too high of a risk. People do DIE from it, people who are young with no underlying health condition, non-smoking, non-drinking still die from this virus. You want to die? Go die and sacrifice yourself for the sake of creating herd immunity. But stay the hell away!

Uh... from memory the strictest lockdown in Estern Europe was in the Czeq Republic, it now hss the highest covid incidence in Europe...
Care to remind us what lockdown Sweden implemented ? Curious minds want to know...

 

[KCalhoun]

Well, Sweden still has a king on the throne. Can you imagine? When was the last time England had a king?

So maybe that's it. Hehe

Arthur lol

 

[Turveyd]

Ok you don't get to decide which age should be people's end of life. That's a very callous and heartless notion. You don't want them to be stuck in nursing homes waiting for death? Then you go take care of your elderly in your own home!! But that still does not negate the necessity to follow lockdown and social distancing measures to control the spread of this pandemic.



Already told you, UK tried no lockdown. Didn't work! Get a grip! You like Sweden so much? Go live in Sweden! Like I said, all those people who wants herd should just go into one place, far far away from the rest of us. Sweden seems to be the place to cart off all those herd immunity lovers to but once Sweden is jam packed with all those herd lovers, guess what's gonna happen to its infection rate and death rate? LOL Anyway, good riddance!

Nah everyone send them to care homes over here towards the end, why should the elderly ruin the lives of there younger family, I'll top myself before I ruin my kids lives, 100% guaranteed.

I'd move to Sweden if I could and 1 day I might, only country that didn't over react badly to a new Flu strain.

By the time UK put the lockdown in, the 3 week lag meant the lockdown was pointless literally, all the deaths and all of the damage, 100% perfect shit storm.

But Sweden 1/3rd the Deaths of NYC with lockdowns, so yeah Swedens way very time, I thought you wanted to save people ?? confused, but your choosing 3x's the deaths, odd.