Florida high school under lockdown after reports of shooter, victims, police say

Yes, the definition of insanity is taking guns away from law-abiding citizens. Just ask the Jews in Germany in the 30s, or the non-Russian minorities under Stalin how the taking of guns relates to insanity.
That old chestnut? If the "big bad government" wants to get you, do you think your guns are going to slow them down for more than one minute?
 
Yeah, sure, there was none of that 20 years ago. o_O

I agree that those things don't help. I also think you are ignoring the big, stinking elephant in the room.

The elephant you might be referring to usually does stink. That is why I’m not married to it.

However, please be more specific so I can be sure I understand what you are saying.
 
You know the definition of insanity, right?
The definition of insanity, Mr. Frederick, is "a late 50-something internet lurking fag hag from Canada" (credit to Mr. Tsing for that brilliant observation) obsessively posting about American politics, the latest example of which is here, trying to use a mass shooting to his advantage in order to push his irrelevant views on gun control.
 
That old chestnut? If the "big bad government" wants to get you, do you think your guns are going to slow them down for more than one minute?

Guns are very useful for stopping the local thugs that members of the government send over to your house. Ask the blacks in the U.S. South about this from 1900 to 1970.
 
The definition of insanity, Mr. Frederick, is "a late 50-something internet lurking fag hag from Canada" (credit to Mr. Tsing for that brilliant observation) obsessively posting about American politics, the latest example of which is here, trying to use a mass shooting to his advantage in order to push his irrelevant views on gun control.
Lets look who started the thread and the forum he chose for it. Oh, and love the ad hominem, it means that you're affected.
 
And guns. Don't forget guns. Lots and lots of guns.

Ask yourself why hospitals, or airports, or any other place where there is armed security are never targeted by maniacs with guns to kill helpless people. Because they have guards and their own police. Cowards with guns are afraid of good guys with guns.
 
Could part of the gun crime violence be related to T.V. shows, movies, and video games depicting violence? Could the breakup of many families or reduced time parents spend with their children have any part in what we are seeing today?

Kids getting shot in school, like getting drugs in school is a problem. Too many people will not respond well to having their second amendment rights taken away. How to mitigate the problem will likely take time and focus on the root causes of why kids decide to kill.

One of the motivation is the media attention they will get, even if posthumous. “I was somebody” type of thinking, perhaps. There are usually some tell-tale signs that precede a mass murder attempt, but for teachers and administrators to jump on every student who is having a bad day wouldn’t work either.

Why can Canadian and European kids who watch the same TV/media handle it and a significant % of US kids cannot?

There has been a school shooting on average every 60 hours in the US in 2018 and it is halfway through February.

Yes there are answers and there are fixes. People who say there is no solution are useless, they just want attention.

Mental heath is the US is a serious problem. (that can be helped).
 
Ask yourself why hospitals, or airports, or any other place where there is armed security are never targeted by maniacs with guns to kill helpless people. Because they have guards and their own police. Cowards with guns are afraid of good guys with guns.
So you want to live in a society where everyone is armed rather than no one. Students, teachers, doctors, mailmen, nurses. While far from perfect, I am so very glad to be living in Canada.
 
Also start a buy back on ARs and prevent them being advertised, similar to cigarettes.

I would guess this idea might work very well.

Basically people buy guns for self-protection.

All powerful guns that could be potentially used for mass killing must be locked up in special cabinets inside guns shops.

Any inquiry wanting to inspect any powerful guns stored inside locked-up cabinets must produce ID and relevant documents for photocopying first before opening the cabinets.

These photocopied ID records must be electronically sent immediately to several relevant authorities for justification and checking definitely before the guns are sold and carried beyond outside the shop.

Problematic or doubtful validity for clearing background check would require the gun customer to come back later for picking the sold guns after receiving phone call. Or otherwise, getting refund.

Just 2 cents!
 
So you want to live in a society where everyone is armed rather than no one. Students, teachers, doctors, mailmen, nurses. While far from perfect, I am so very glad to be living in Canada.

I think everyone here is glad you are living in Canada. But that being said, unless you address the root cause behind why teens like this go insane and start killing people, merely putting laws in place to stop legal carriers of firearms won't do a damned thing. There are just too many weapons on the street.
 
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