Fear and loathing in Las Vegas

jem · Oct 20, 2016

over the last few weeks when ask to dive deeper and back up the b.s. you write... you respond with a failed joke, a non sequitor or a non answer.

how does it feel to stake positions which are so intellectually bankrupt... time after time.

ripped or pulled whatever term you wish to employ it is barbaric. this is what you support happening to human beings when you vote for hillary or you voted for obama.

http://www.nrlc.org/archive/abortion/facts/pbafacts.html

What is Partial-Birth Abortion?
Partial-Birth Abortion is a procedure in which the abortionist pulls a living baby feet-first out of the womb and into the birth canal (vagina), except for the head, which the abortionist purposely keeps lodged just inside the cervix (the opening to the womb). The abortionist punctures the base of the baby’s skull with a surgical instrument, such as a long surgical scissors or a pointed hollow metal tube called a trochar. He then inserts a catheter (tube) into the wound, and removes the baby's brain with a powerful suction machine. This causes the skull to collapse, after which the abortionist completes the delivery of the now-dead baby.

piezoe said:
Oh, they don't "come out of the womb," they are "ripped" out of the womb.
This campaign has been way better than the Jerry Springer show!

nitro · Oct 20, 2016

piezoe · Oct 20, 2016

jem said:
over the last few weeks when ask to dive deeper and back up the b.s. you write... you respond with a failed joke, a non sequitor or a non answer.

how does it feel to stake positions which are so intellectually bankrupt... time after time.

ripped or pulled whatever term you wish to employ it is barbaric. this is what you support happening to human beings when you vote for hillary or you voted for obama.

http://www.nrlc.org/archive/abortion/facts/pbafacts.html

What is Partial-Birth Abortion?
Partial-Birth Abortion is a procedure in which the abortionist pulls a living baby feet-first out of the womb and into the birth canal (vagina), except for the head, which the abortionist purposely keeps lodged just inside the cervix (the opening to the womb). The abortionist punctures the base of the baby’s skull with a surgical instrument, such as a long surgical scissors or a pointed hollow metal tube called a trochar. He then inserts a catheter (tube) into the wound, and removes the baby's brain with a powerful suction machine. This causes the skull to collapse, after which the abortionist completes the delivery of the now-dead baby.

JEM, are you one of Trumps wild, charging hyenas ?

These things you are trying to bait me into commenting on here on ET have many nuances, and they have been discussed ad nauseum already in expert forums and in the court. And the court has spoken. You want to know my opinion. It is the same as the court's. I trust the patient to make these very serious and grave decisions in consultation with expert advice from their physician. Unlike the wild hyenas who what the government to dictate to women what they can do with their bodies, I am a true Libertarian. I don't want government telling me what to do with my body or telling anyone else what to do with theirs. And I don't want a wild, crackpot, religious hyena to try and force their weird ideas on any of the rest of us.

Tony Stark · Oct 20, 2016

piezoe said:
She has turned out much better than I had anticipated, based on past faux pas. Perhaps that suggests she is learning from mistakes. In particular, she was able to retain some dignity even on the same stage with Trump. That says a lot about her ability to function, remain calm, and think clearly in a high pressure situation.

I really like your enthusiasm. Something we have far too little of around here.

Thanks Piezoe.I'm a fan of your post as well.

Nine_Ender · Oct 20, 2016

piezoe said:
JEM, are you one of Trumps wild, charging hyenas ? These things you are trying to bait me into commenting on here on ET have many nuances, and they have been discussed ad nauseum already in expert forums and in the court. And the court has spoken. You want to know my opinion. It is the same as the courts. I trust the patient to make these very serious and grave decisions in consultation with expert advice from their physician. Unlike the wild hyenas who what the government to dictate to women what they can do with their bodies, I am a true Libertarian. I don't want government telling me what to do with my body or telling anyone else what to do with theirs. And a don't want a wild crackpot, religious hyena to try and force their weird ideas on any of the rest of us.

Also important to note that he is obsessing now about around 0.2% of all abortions in order to push a political and religious agenda. Just like he obsesses about legal immigrants being terrorists when the actual numbers are for all we know statistically irrelevant. Jem seems out of touch and overly religious and scared at the best of times. Why on earth would any woman beyond want their life impacted by his opinion ? Trump, forget it, he clearly doesn't respect woman, even those in his family.

peilthetraveler · Oct 20, 2016

jem said:
over the last few weeks when ask to dive deeper and back up the b.s. you write... you respond with a failed joke, a non sequitor or a non answer.

how does it feel to stake positions which are so intellectually bankrupt... time after time.

ripped or pulled whatever term you wish to employ it is barbaric. this is what you support happening to human beings when you vote for hillary or you voted for obama.

http://www.nrlc.org/archive/abortion/facts/pbafacts.html

What is Partial-Birth Abortion?
Partial-Birth Abortion is a procedure in which the abortionist pulls a living baby feet-first out of the womb and into the birth canal (vagina), except for the head, which the abortionist purposely keeps lodged just inside the cervix (the opening to the womb). The abortionist punctures the base of the baby’s skull with a surgical instrument, such as a long surgical scissors or a pointed hollow metal tube called a trochar. He then inserts a catheter (tube) into the wound, and removes the baby's brain with a powerful suction machine. This causes the skull to collapse, after which the abortionist completes the delivery of the now-dead baby.

That is effing horrific. I want to go back and not read that.

jem · Oct 20, 2016

its so ugly when the left tries to characterize those who support human life and dignity as wild hyenas. What is more barbaric attempting to save a life or sending in scissors and sucking out the brains of human beings? Who the would characterize those who defend the life of human beings as hyenas? Soros... stalin who else?

a thinking person would realize we have the intersection of the right of a woman to her body vs the rights of the human being to not be killed... particularly in a heinous barbaric act of violence such as having his brained sucked out. A thinking person would realize this is a tough issue and not act like the side protecting human life should be marginalized with comments like wild hyenas.

a true libertarian would realize that it should be left to the states. probably a popular vote.
a fake libertarian likes it when federal judges interject themselves in decisions which have been left to the state by the constitution.

some libertarians support abortion and some do not. The killing of a human being is exactly the time may libertarians would apply non aggression principle and the universal right to life principle would allow a state to get involved and protect the rights of those having their brains sucked out by abortionists. The barbaric killing of others is something that is easily supported by an philosophy which puts human rights and dignity first.

as far as you being a libertarian. you are big remote powerful govt loving stalinist libertarian.

piezoe said:
JEM, are you one of Trumps wild, charging hyenas ? These things you are trying to bait me into commenting on here on ET have many nuances, and they have been discussed ad nauseum already in expert forums and in the court. And the court has spoken. You want to know my opinion. It is the same as the court's. I trust the patient to make these very serious and grave decisions in consultation with expert advice from their physician. Unlike the wild hyenas who what the government to dictate to women what they can do with their bodies, I am a true Libertarian. I don't want government telling me what to do with my body or telling anyone else what to do with theirs. And I don't want a wild, crackpot, religious hyena to try and force their weird ideas on any of the rest of us.

jem · Oct 20, 2016

Pro-life Libertarian former congressman Ron Paul says in "Abortion and Liberty":

It's no coincidence that today's argument over abortion comes at a time when freedom in general is threatened in the United States, as well as in other Western countries. Nor was it accidental that genocide, abortion, and euthanasia were all practiced under Hitler, and that all three characterize totalitarian states. Even today, Communist governments vary their positions on abortion strictly on economic calculations of whether more or fewer slaves are needed.[22]

WeToddDid2 · Oct 20, 2016

It is funny and ironic that all the libtards are voting for the neocon in this election. I guess libtards love neocons now.

https://twitter.com/x/status/786366228378050561

“Well, we know what kind of Secretary of State she was,”Stein said in her response. “[Hillary] is in incredible service to Wall Street and to the war profiteers. She led the way in Libya and she’s trying to start an air war with Russia over Syria, which means, if Hillary gets elected, we’re kinda going to war with Russia, folks…a nuclear-armed power.”

jem · Oct 20, 2016

in different election I would have to learn more about stein too. I have said many times the establishment that Hillary works for gives us the worst of the left and the right.

Perhaps stein has some ideas that would help the country even if they are a bit left. She is obviously smart enough to see the issues with hillary.

WeToddDid2 said:
It is funny and ironic that all the libtards are voting for the neocon in this election. I guess libtards love neocons now.

https://twitter.com/x/status/786366228378050561

“Well, we know what kind of Secretary of State she was,”Stein said in her response. “[Hillary] is in incredible service to Wall Street and to the war profiteers. She led the way in Libya and she’s trying to start an air war with Russia over Syria, which means, if Hillary gets elected, we’re kinda going to war with Russia, folks…a nuclear-armed power.”