Why is the U.S. an extreme outlier? Is it because we have so many gang members...more than 900,000? China, Brazil, and Russia are the only countries with more gang members...wonder what their stats are compared to the U.S....I don't see them in your example? I've heard stats thrown around that gangs are responsible for 70% of crime in the U.S...drug trafficking, sex trafficking, murder for hire and gang to gang conflict...sure looks like we have a gang problem more than a gun problem! I don't deny we have a people problem and some of these people have guns. I know plenty of people that should't have assault weapons in their possession...their common sense is just too questionable!
Economics about mass shooting
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"Despite having some of the toughest gun regulations of any city in the country, Chicago continues to record thousands of shootings per year. As President Obama has pointed out, that isn’t a failing of the city’s gun laws.
The problem is that most of the guns used in crimes in Chicago come from neighboring states with lax gun laws.
A study released last year by the city found that almost 60 percent of firearms recovered at Chicago crime scenes were first bought in states that do not require background checks for Internet or gun show sales, like neighboring Indiana and Wisconsin. Of the remaining crime guns, nearly half were purchased at three gun shops just outside the city."
https://www.thetrace.org/2016/01/chicago-crime-guns-chart/
There is a lot of information to chew in that article about the economics of guns, particularly for people who talk about Chicago a lot.
The problem is that most of the guns used in crimes in Chicago come from neighboring states with lax gun laws.
A study released last year by the city found that almost 60 percent of firearms recovered at Chicago crime scenes were first bought in states that do not require background checks for Internet or gun show sales, like neighboring Indiana and Wisconsin. Of the remaining crime guns, nearly half were purchased at three gun shops just outside the city."
https://www.thetrace.org/2016/01/chicago-crime-guns-chart/
There is a lot of information to chew in that article about the economics of guns, particularly for people who talk about Chicago a lot.
I accept that liberals have been so indoctrinated by anti-gun forces that they have lost all ability to reason on this issue. Their solution is to "ban" guns, which obviously will not work as their are some 300 million legally owned firearms out there. Not too many people are going to voluntarily give them up when they see the chaos engulfing our country...courtesy of the same people who want their guns.
It is telling that they are prepared to enforce harsh sanctions on law-abiding people with a gun in their bedside drawer but recoil at the idea of sending invading illegal aliens back. It is this kind of attitude that makes normal Americans question if progressives like Obama and Hillary really do love out country or if they are acting out of some other agenda.
It is telling that they are prepared to enforce harsh sanctions on law-abiding people with a gun in their bedside drawer but recoil at the idea of sending invading illegal aliens back. It is this kind of attitude that makes normal Americans question if progressives like Obama and Hillary really do love out country or if they are acting out of some other agenda.
Russia has stronger gun control, yet with a smaller population and less guns (13 mil. vs. U.S. 300 mil) has way more (some estimates are double) armed homicides...how? Brazil has stronger gun laws with a population of 207 million people and has an armed homicide rate that blows the U.S. out of the water...18.1 vs. 3.6...how? Comparing the U.S. to the above mentioned countries is misleading.
Comparing the U.S. to the above mentioned countries is misleading.
The U.S. measures itself against other developed (wealthy) nations with economies & technology infrastructure that puts them in a comparable leauge. If you set the bar low than sure, the U.S. is not the worst in gun homicides but is still the undisputed leader in mass shootings.
To give you an idea of what a developed nation means these are the top 10 developed nations per the IMF: USA, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Spain, United Kingdom.
The U.S. measures itself against other developed (wealthy) nations with economies & technology infrastructure that puts them in a comparable leauge. If you set the bar low than sure, the U.S. is not the worst in gun homicides but is still the undisputed leader in mass shootings.
To give you an idea of what a developed nation means these are the top 10 developed nations per the IMF: USA, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Spain, United Kingdom.
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It's still misleading. Those countries don't have a gang problem compared to the U.S., but Russia and Brazil do. Mass shootings are defined by 4 or more deaths...still fits within gang war incidents. Please tell me why Russia and Brazil (who are still emerging countries) have failed at stronger gun control? If those two countries can figure it out, then maybe we can solve our own two little "Brazil's"...Chicago and Detroit (among others).
Like I said the U.S.A. is a developed nation - comparisons are made with the same. Do we have more gang member sure - funny how the top 10 gun death states were not exactly the big gangsta hot spots. I just follow the facts.
Chicago & Detroit did even make the top 10 list.
2016 CDC Top 10 stated with highest firearm deaths per 100k people.
#1 Alaska
#2 Louisiana
#3 Mississippi
#4 Alabama
#5 Montana
#6 Arkansas
#7 New Mexico
#8 Wyoming
#9 Oklahoma
#10 South Carolina
Chicago & Detroit did even make the top 10 list.
2016 CDC Top 10 stated with highest firearm deaths per 100k people.
#1 Alaska
#2 Louisiana
#3 Mississippi
#4 Alabama
#5 Montana
#6 Arkansas
#7 New Mexico
#8 Wyoming
#9 Oklahoma
#10 South Carolina
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To be fair, I'd also want to off myself if I lived there
Russia and Brazil aren't developed enough for you? Anyway, last I checked Chicago and Detroit aren't STATES, so that's why they didn't make your "top ten". According to WORLDATLAS.COM as of August 25, 2017--highest homicide rated cities per 100k people:
1 Baltimore
2 DETROIT
3 New Orleans
4 K.C
5 Clevland
6 Memphis
7 Newark (N.J.)
8 St. Louis
9 CHICAGO
Also, gangs like MS-13 are in 42 different states...Latin Kings are in 34 states...many "gangstas" in your Top 10 list of states. Alaska...maybe the worst forcible rape state? Maybe 50 or 60 murder incidents in a year...again, too small of a state population to put on this list...Montana as well.