Economics about mass shooting

Las Vegas victims face mounting medical bills following tragic shooting

HE WAS a hero who saved 30 people, now he’s worried about making ends meet, as Las Vegas survivors face mounting bills.

October 7, 2017
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...g/news-story/909591ff8b24daf7ab7654f2d20a2cfc

VICTIMS of the Las Vegas shooting are facing mounting medical bills that could add up to in excess of $771 million (US$600 million), according to one expert who said the cost will be “beyond staggering.”

Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation expert Ted Miller told Newsweek the Las Vegas tragedy will likely cost more than $771 million in terms of medical bills, mental healthcare, physical therapy, loss of income and police work following the crisis.

Sharing the $771 million (medical bills Alone) by the top 20 politicians can be more than $38 million for each!

Obviously there is a better way to save the money, plus lives!

1,000 mass shootings after Sandy Hook, and death/injury rate per event are soaring. Why is this happening? Greedy politicians! The vast majority being Republicans & a few Democrats put their personal profits over public safety.

They want to roll out silencers, more lethal armor piercing rounds, & sell guns to those on the no fly list & the mentally ill. What's next, selling guns to kids mixed in with the back to school supplies?

Most Americans 80-90%!) support stronger gun laws — laws that would reduce deaths. But Republicans in Congress stand in the way. They fear alienating their primary voters and the National Rifle Association.

Below are the top 10 career recipients of N.R.A. funding – through donations or spending to benefit the candidate – among both current House and Senate members, along with their statements about the Las Vegas massacre. These representatives have a lot to say about it. All the while, they refuse to do anything to avoid the next massacre.

Trump told the annual National Rifle Association convention, "You have a true friend and champion in the White House." Only the second president to address the NRA convention – the first was Ronald Reagan in 1983


Senate
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John McCain, Ariz.
“Cindy & I are praying for the victims of the terrible #LasVegasShooting & their families.”
$7,740,521 from the N.R.A

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Richard Burr, N.C.
“My heart is with the people of Las Vegas and their first responders today. This morning’s tragic violence has absolutely no place here in America.”
$6,986,620 from the N.R.A.
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Roy Blunt,Mo.
“Saddened by the tragic loss of life in #LasVegas. My thoughts are with all of the families affected by this horrific attack.”
$4,551,146 from the N.R.A.
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Thom Tillis, N.C.
“Susan and I send our deepest condolences and prayers to the families of the victims of this horrific and senseless tragedy in Las Vegas.”
$4,418,012 from the N.R.A.
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Cory Gardner,Co.
“My family and I are praying for the families of those injured and killed in Las Vegas last night.”
$3,879,064 from the N.R.A.
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Marco Rubio, Fla.
“I’m praying for all the victims, their families, and our first responders in the #LasVegas #MandalayBay shooting.”
$3,303,355 from the N.R.A.
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Joni Ernst, Iowa
“My prayers are with all of the victims in Las Vegas, and their loved ones affected by this senseless act of violence.”
$3,124,273 from the N.R.A.
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Rob Portman, Ohio
“Jane & I mourn the loss of innocent lives in this horrific attack in Las Vegas last night. We are praying for those taken from us, their families & all those injured in this attack.”
$3,061,941 from the N.R.A.
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Todd Young, Ind.
“We must offer our full support to the victims and their families as our nation mourns.”
$2,896,732 from the N.R.A.
10.
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Bill Cassidy, La.
“Following closely the horrendous act of violence in Las Vegas. Our prayers are with those who were injured, killed and their families.”
$2,861,047 from the N.R.A.


House
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French Hill, Ark.
“Martha and I are praying for the families and victims of this senseless act of evil. […] We must continue to work together to stop this kind of terror.”
$1,089,477 from the N.R.A.
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Ken Buck, Co.
“I'm praying for all of those impacted by the evil events in Las Vegas last night. Our country must stand together in support of the families of the victims and the community.”
$800,544 from the N.R.A.
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David Young, Iowa
“My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families and friends of the horrific and evil tragedy in Las Vegas.”
$707,662 from the N.R.A.
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Mike Simpson,Idaho
“Though no words can heal our hurt, and no explanation will ever feel sufficient, I pray that all involved may find comfort as we process this devastating tragedy.”
$385,731 from the N.R.A.
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Greg Gianforte, Mont.
No statement released.
$344,630 from the N.R.A.
6.
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Don Young, Alaska
“Anne and I are praying for all those involved or impacted by this heinous act of violence.”
$245,720 from the N.R.A.
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Lloyd Smucker, Pa.
“Horrific act of violence in Las Vegas. Cindy and I pray for the victims, their families, and the first responders.”
$221,736 from the N.R.A.
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Bruce Poliquin, Maine
“My thoughts are with all those effected in the horrifying attacks in Las Vegas. The nation is with you.”
$201,398 from the N.R.A.
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Pete Sessions, Tex.
“My deepest sympathies are with all who were harmed by this horrific tragedy.”
$158,111 from the N.R.A.
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Barbara Comstock, Va.
“I am heartbroken by the mass murder that took place last night in Las Vegas and I am praying for the victims, families, and first responders.”
$137,232 from the N.R.A.
 
Well that's a weak argument when in the USA you are 22 more likely of being killed by guns than any other industrialized nation. In fact gun deaths in the USA has surpassed vehicle accidents in deaths
This stupid "stat" has been proven time and time again to be enormously skewed by INNER CITY BLACK ON BLACK SHOOTINGS.

Where is all the snowflake outrage when a "Mandalay Bay" happens pretty much every month in Chicago?

You liberals are all racists because you only want to take our guns when whitey gets killed by a psycho, but ignore the black on black slaughter every day in cities across the country
 
This comedian has has is the best gun violence solution of all times!


One more just destroys the pro gun arguments.


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Well that's a weak argument when in the USA you are 22 more likely of being killed by guns than any other industrialized nation. In fact gun deaths in the USA has surpassed vehicle accidents in deaths - that was unimaginable not long ago and the trend is rising.

Can someone use other means to kill people? Sure, although guns are by far the #1 instrument used by murderers.

Selling high powered weapons to the public empowers anyone to easily commit mass murders. 80-90% American are sick of this and want tighter regulations.
60% of gun related deaths in the U.S. are from suicides...more than homicides.
 

It is understandable to want to find an answer to the cause of innocent children and other people being killed. Too many people had no say, no chance in affecting the outcome when faced with an attacker with a gun.

It is this way with other things in our lives. Such as motor vehicles and alcohol, to name a few. I included alcohol because a lot of violence and accidents have been caused by its use.

Children and other passengers in an vehicle who die because of deliberate or negligent operation of their driver or the driver of another vehicle had no say in that outcome either.

It comes down to responsible use of the item in question. Lives have been saved by the use of vehicles in getting people medical attention quickly, just as innocent lives have been saved by someone being able to defend themselves, and in some cases, their family with a gun. For those that abuse their privileges, they will be held accountable for their actions by laws already in place.

It is hard to determine the optimal amount of regulation, but it seems to me it is hard to justify weapons of mass destruction being used for defensive purposes.

The right to bear arms is in our constitutional DNA and should not be infringed. Especially, when an subjective criteria is used to determine who may have that right. Be wary of politicians and media sources who promote increasing gun ownership restrictions. The entity that is trying to take your rights away is not your friend. You may want to consider if they have an agenda and what the real reason why they want to get rid of as many gun owners as possible.
 
60% of gun related deaths in the U.S. are from suicides...more than homicides.

The USA is the extreme outlier in suicides by guns, accidental shootings, murders with guns, and mass shootings.

For an alcoholic to get sober the firs step they make is to admit to themselves they have a problem. Other civilized nations are shocked by our gun violence, it's time we take step #1.

My first day in Amsterdam a street performer had an audience of well over 1,000 from many different countries. He asked for an American to come up on the stage, this lady gets up there and he starts riffling through her purse frantically - then starts frisking her - he said "where's your gun, I need a gun for my act - all Americans carry guns!" everybody burst out laughing so hard. It sure made an impression on me.

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Source: The American Journal of Medicine (2010)
 
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There has to be something going on under the surface here. It's either a form of population control in certain demographics or the US government wants everyone familiar with weaponry just in case they have to prepare for all out war and this comes at a cost.

Why else would they allow so many citizens to die?

Can someone answer this, can you go down to your local McDonalds carrying a weapon, get into an argument, shoot someone dead in self defense and avoid being charged?

In Texas maybe and if you are White. If you belong to any other race, you will still be charged.
 
The USA is the extreme outlier in suicides by guns, accidental shootings, murders with guns, and mass shootings.

For an alcoholic to get sober the firs step they make is to admit to themselves they have a problem. Other civilized nations are shocked by our gun violence, it's time we take step #1.

You are correct, many Americans refuse to acknowledge there is a problem and some use statistics ( badly at times ) to try to explain away the problem. While it may be true that the US is in a difficult situation due to the rapid proliferation of weapons, the only solution to a difficult situation is to improve it in practical, smaller steps. The current reaction of some to buy more guns is insanity.
 
60% of gun related deaths in the U.S. are from suicides...more than homicides.

The USA is the extreme outlier in suicides by guns, accidental shootings, murders with guns, and mass shootings.

For an alcoholic to get sober the firs step they make is to admit to themselves they have a problem. Other civilized nations are shocked by our gun violence, it's time we take step #1.

My first day in Amsterdam a street performer had an audience of well over 1,000 from many different countries. He asked for an American to come up on the stage, this lady gets up there and he starts riffling through her purse frantically - then starts frisking her - he said "where's your gun, I need a gun for my act - all Americans carry guns!" everybody burst out laughing so hard. It sure made an impression on me.

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Thank you for the statistics. As we can see, the U.S. Has much higher death rates for homicides and suicides involving guns. I wonder how many of these deaths are caused by the "convenience" of guns. We spend lots of time watching violent T.V. Shows, movies, and electronic games. There is a lot of drug trade related gang violence as well.

What is an "acceptable" amount of gun violence and what can be done about it? Personally, I see the relative performance of the US versus other countries as disappointing. However, in absolute terms, I'm ok with gun homocide rates of 5.3 per 100,000. Gun Homicide rates of 10 in 100,000 would be acceptable to me.

I have never owned a gun, as I consider them noisy, heavy, expensive, and heavily regulated. There are likely more modern options available for self-defense, etc., which are likely to be adopted more quickly as gun ownership rights become increasingly restrictive. It may be the noise and relative ease of detection of these weapons that has kept the homocide rate where it is relative to what it might be if more modern substitutes were used. It is my personal opinion, developed through discussion with law enforcement officers is that they generally support public gun ownership rights.

Less emphasis on violence as a form of entertainment in our media may help the US reduce its gun related deaths.

I support my fellow Americans rights to gun ownership and am willing to take much more pain in the form of mass shootings.
 
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